Gab’s #AndrewTorba utterly undermines the existence of his site gab.com, with his discussion on #porn.
Torba:
https://www.pscp.tv/w/cMLoyzFvUEVMQnphd01NS2R8MU1uR25Fdk1XWlZLT3pBODyG54rCf172bAGMAm7HljpZXmLHahvtsts9zLB7
Main points from Torba, reasonable paraphrasing and interpretation:
1. “People who object to me are addicted to porn.”
2. “Let’s put legal barriers against speech I don’t like.”
3. Children. Save the children, as a reason for item 2.
My responses:
A. Yes humans have evolved to have “hidden sexuality.”
B. Yes adult #sexuality should be appropriately hidden, from children.
C. Adult porn, that is explicit portrayals of human sexuality, are absolutely free speech.
D. Torba is inviting legal blocks regarding speech some don’t like. Utterly hypocritical. Absolutely undermining his pwn brand.
E. It’s lazy and stupid to state that people who object to gov blocking access to legal images and words, via forced identity verification, are “addicted to porn.”
F. Gov regulation of what adults can share, about adults between adults, opens the door to too much control and regulation of human thought and interaction.
G. What is legal speech? Adult porn is legal.
H. If you’re a parent who’s concerned, use technology to block the content you consider inappropriate for viewing by children. The alternative is, what? Inviting censorious totalitarians to creep more into power.
I. The balance between what should be legal and not, has been reasonably reached already in America. We don’t ask the government for permission to read legal material or to see legal images, period. Adults viewing adults. Adults reading what adults do. Adults sharing with adults. Freedom of association. #Freedomofspeech. Freedom of thought. #Gab and Andrew Torba are off the rails.
J. Yes humans aren't bonobos. But gov requiring ID checks to view certain pixels or ink, is regressive and a quick path to totalitarianism. Nuance: https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/10/humans-are-not-bonobos-response-to.html
The destruction of gab.com.
#GetOffGab #DumpGab #LeaveGab #GabIsNotFree
p.s. Torba has blocked me on Twitter. He's Tetchy and is in a forced Silo.
Postmodernism births sterile wastrels. Choose life instead.
Postmodernism (and racist eugenicist Margaret Sanger's birth control pill): Helps females become fat pigs. Next, overly attractive males have no females to hook up with. And thus, the Stonewall LGBTQPZ project was born: a place for abused abusive wastrels to go, so as to engage in mutual wankery to no good effect, other than some nice art perhaps, but zero kids born into best-for-the-kids settings.
Lives derailed. Lives destroyed.
Yes, it's true, wankery in and of itself won't make you a LGBTQPZ. For the Mormons & Ex-Mormons in my feed: Mormon Prophet Spencer Kimball's claim that wankery will may you a sexual invert (i.e. a g,a,y), which was taught textually AND verbally in the Mormon (LDS) Church, yes that's not correct. And mandatory sexually explicit interviews of children and adults absolutely drives some of those people to be angry reactionaries when they get older or become more mature. All abusive Mormon she'at which other flavors of Christianity don't do (e.g. Evangelical and other protestant).
But the ultra left is not a panacea answer to the abuses of sections of the ultra right.
Oh, yes, as an ex-religionist, you can be so angry angry angry, with religion in general. But, we being evolutionary animals with emergent properties, happen to couch our evolved morals within religious contexts. Religions are evolutionary artifacts and engines themselves.
The (French) bullshit postmodernist ideology, derails the lives of many.
Gender is binary in the human animal.
Yes, children need a mother and a father, for their own best evolved and natural well being.
Gender is not changeable in the human animal.
There's no such thing as "gender identity," just moronic and stupid and abusive gender dysphoria.
Secular people can have bad dumbshit memes running on their brains, too.
Thus, to be a conservative, means you want to conserve things. Today being a conservative means conserving free speech. Conserving British Western Enlightenment values. Conserving the American project is the best example of those values. Universal slavery, ended. Science and human knowledge, advanced. True free speech, present, something not as fully present in any other country or community. The ability to fry sacred cows, yes, that's included. But let's not toss the baby of evolved morality out with the bathwater of mysticism. And I agree with Jordan Peterson that even the mystical stores have evolved natural good utilitarian value.
Social conservatism is the >default< useful natural evolved position, because that position promotes live, preserves life, and continues life. Ok let's call out abuses, but let's also value what should be valued.
Sincerely,
Jonathan
The vid they banned, now on the venerable site BitChute:
Copy of censorship notification email is below. Their assertions are absurd, libelous, and slanderous. I want to fucking, SAVE LIVES (!!!) by not having people drawn into the bastard religion secular cult which is, All The Letters of Stonewall! L G B T, oh and P and Z. One letter after another, one reason after another, to not have kids, or to fuck up the lives of children you happen to have had before being sucked in.
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Operation Clambake, Fighting SJW Edition is in operation.
When others stand to gain monetarily or otherwise because you skipped a step in the chain, you can be the recipient of life-blocking lies.
Smart people should have more kids, the more the better.
People in First World countries should have more kids also, because right now there's not enough kids being produced w/in such environments. Lower than the replacement levels in many cases. And importing third worlders to have kids on your behalf isn't that healthy of an activity. Outsourcing breeding results in slow motion suicide for you and a degradation of Western Culture in general.
Ideally smart people should stay in their home countries and help those countries rise.
I'm ok with a limited refugee system, but right now people from south of the border are horribly abusing that system for economic gain.
#ClimateHysteria is a Ponzi scheme & anti-human anti-life cult.
Reasonably responding to Reza Aslan & the Anti-Life Nihilistic Left, versus Trump & his supporters.
Regarding the constant drip, drip, drip of nihilistic psychopaths:
The charlatan virtue signalers are pointing fingers everywhere except where they should be pointed. Leftist generators of cultural nihilism & lost boys:
1. A key generator of nihilism in the West is culturally Marxist postmodernism.
2. Third Wave Feminism.
3. The LGBTQPZ Stonewall project.
4. The leftist competition to see who's the very best at not having children.
5. Redefining marriage.
6. Denial regarding the sexually dimorphic nature of humans.
7. Devaluing motherhood & fatherhood.
8. Shaming pinks skins AKA whites for having pink skins.
9. Shaming boys for being boys.
Pink-Skin-Carried British & American Western Enlightenment Values ended universal slavery.
Where's my reparations for that (not that I'm asking for any)?
Children are born innocent. Meme sets however can be blamed. When you have a culture which generates nihilists that culture has a problem.
Democrats seek to import voters. The nihilistic violent youth who're members of #Antifa support the corporatist elitist gated community leftists with these goals: open the floodgates.
The native born of all colors are pitted by the Democrats against the people whom the Democrats wish to import as a means of maintaining & gaining power. So that's an abusive situation.
Another meme set that the cultural left loves, Islam, also generates lost boy nihilists so they can have virgins in an afterlife. This is a real thing. Listen to Tawfik Hamid:
In today's world we need to be be prepared. Take a multi-faceted approach. The Democrats lie about the motives of Trump and of Trump supporters. 99.9% of Trump supporters would like all potential mass shooters erased.
The Democrats have their violent arm, the death cult army of #Antifa.
Promote life. Find a way to make life - the most important thing we can do during our speck of time here. Christopher Hitchens said this.
Question the dominant paradigm. Question your own beliefs. This is the key spirit of what Christopher Hitchens advocated for.
The people putting out the most racist & pro-violence dog whistles these days are the Democrats.
Reza Aslan is such a one, a man who's apparently pro-violence-against-Republicans type of guy.
Reza Aslan is a slick tongue opportunistic charlatan who promotes a rose colored view of Islam. His longer term game has been to go on legacy media news outlets and basically lie about Islam.
POS violence promoting Aslan claimed that Ayaan Hirsi Ali is "dangerous."
Hirsi Ali and Theo Van Gogh created the film "Submission Part 1," a film critical of how Islam treats women. Van Gogh was killed as a result. And Hirsi Ali must have round the clock security & moved to the USA a result of threats against her. And yet asshat Aslan thinks Hirsi Ali is dangerous.
Yes and while Aslan should be rightly seen as a lying opportunistic charlatan, the same can also be said of prominent Democrats especially Democrat blacks, who belong to a party which enslaved their ancestors, a party which booted the Amerindians off their lands, a party which interned the Japanese Americans during World War II, and a party which has imported anti-American anti-Enlightenment culturally-Marxist postmodernism into America.
The Republican Party was against all these things.
If you're going to ascribe blame to meme sets, let's blame the Democrat Party for what they should be blamed for. This is why I renounce my prior association with the Democrat Party.
I voted for Obama twice, but now I regret those votes primarily because of:
1. Obama utterly betrayed the Western Enlightenment & American projects by stating that his preferred future must belong to those who don't slander the prophet of Islam. Does Obama consider himself to be the America's Islamic Imam? Blasphemy laws are antithetical to the American & Enlightenment projects.
2. Obama associated with leftist terrorist Bill Ayers.
3. Obama greatly appreciated the work of anti-American anti-Enlightenment leftist traitor Saul Alinsky.
Democrats de facto and in fact support the violent terrorist organization Antifa - the angry nihilistic youth who misdirect their anger toward people who can help them be less nihilistic, toward the cultural right in other words.
Trump has denounced white supremacy. If you're a virtue signaling lying Democrat, you'll seek to deceive the chump left regarding what Trump has actually said & what Trump's supporters actually believe.
Lost Boys: Leftist postmodernist ideology & Islam both are generators.
Fascism is an offshoot of Marxism
Some meme sets can create lost boys and which promote nihilism.
Teach that pink skins should hate their skin color.
Teach that boys should have their evolved male human nature.
Systematic hatred of being male and hatred of having pink skin.
That's going to have some downstream effects and create disconnected boys.
Islam teaches young men that one way they can have a sexual relationship is via a suicide bombing. This is a real thing. Listen closely to Tawfik Hamid:
Naturalistic Secular Advocacy for Social Conservatism.
Normal, natural, evolved human nature. What shall we call this? In today's world racked by the cancer of postmodernist denialism, how about: Evolved Social Conservatism.
Being naturally pro life, pro children, pro family, and pro having children born to and raised by the setting which is best for them via a 1.2 billion year evolved process (the time sex has existed on this planet). August 2nd, 2019
Downstream effects of denialist social constructivist postmodernist ideology:
1. Gay "marriage."
2. Feminism, especially third wave.
3. All the letters of the Stonewall project, LGBTQPZetc.
4. Basic human nature denialism.
The cancer of culturally Marxist postmodernism cuts deeper than even so-called conservatives will admit. Abusively permissive libertarians, just don't get it.
The traditionally religious (especially the so-called religious right) live lives which are more true to our evolutionary heritage. Why? Because they've been hoodwinked by postmoderist ideology less.
Key facts denied by the cultural left & postmodernist morons:
1. Humans are a sexually dimorphic species.
2. Sex only happens when two sexual animals engage in activities with their sexual organs which are directly inherently reproductive.
3. Other activities with one's sexual organs are either mutual or individual wankery. And while mutual wankery can enhance pair bonding within a reproductive man & wife couple, still such activites are not selected for by evolution. And all the abusive denialist dead end slow motion suicide letters of the Stonewall project are not selected for by evolution, either.
4. Children need for their own best evolved well-being a man & a woman present as parents.
Love, exists to help bring babies into the word and to support them. Same with sex. And same with what we have for a long time now called marriage. Marriage is simply a word which traditionally meant a committed sexual relationship, and a sexual relationship is one where kids are naturally produced.
It is sad that there are people sucked into the Stonewall faggyfag gay project. Petty dead end lives, largely. Yes a few exceptions, such as Alan Turing, Oscar Wilde, and Steven Fry. But in contrast to those lights there's also a great deal of abuse, and yes even direct undeniable links to pedophilia (homosexuality & pedophilia, mostly the same diff' with a great deal of overlap - come on, let's be f-ing honest).
Evolution doesn't care about your feelings. It doesn't care about the feelings of young Earth creationists, and it doesn't care about the feelings of postmodernists either.
Dave Rubin & other classic liberals are in denial on these key points. Rubin should see himself as a victim, of the abusively permissive & abusive ultra left. Yes, he's that. Douglas Murray. Steven Fry. Even Milo Yiannopoulous. Too bad. So sad. No children produced au natural, the way 1.2 billion years of evolutionary history has "intended." People sucked into a denialist meme set.
Two gay guys hook up and live together. I'm not asking that such be outlawed. But, don't fucking call that hookup marriage, nor even sex. What the hookup is is just two guys engaging in mutual wankery - not sex, again because sex only & solely happens when there's the possibility of inherent reproduction.
Thus I can sympathize with the concerns of the religious right regarding gay marriage & the homosexual project in general. Yes, the concept of gay marriage IS an absolute abuse and an affront to human nature, what human nature is, our evolutionary history, and what basic words like sex & marriage & family actually mean.
5. The black person museum talks of a paradox. Slavery being present in America at its founding was not a paradox, it was simply an indication of a transition period from universal slavery to an abolishment thereof. The gears of Western Enlightenment values took a few years to fully engage and to become more fully realized within an incorporated America.
6. 365,000 Northern Army pink skins AKA whites died so that universal slavery could be ended. The British Royal Navy also helped - more whitey blood spilt to end slavery.
If we're going to have group rights & blames & tribal rights & blames, where's my skin-color and lineage-based "reparations" for the fact that whitey blood was spilled to end universal slavery?
7. Yes some bad things happened when Europeans came to the American continent. But what good things happened as a result of European migration & settlement of America? What, good? The museums don't say. They omit the big oppressive problems with Amerindian culture pre-European influence. They omit the Islamic slave trade. They omit how Western Enlightenment values, as held in the hearts of people like George Washington & Thomas Jefferson helped to eventually and not that far off from America's founding, to end universal slavery.
8. The Democrat party is the party of slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK, booting Amerindians off their lands, interning Japanese ancestry Americans during WWII, and importing anti Enlightenment anti American Marxism into America. Children are born innocent and are not to blame for past sins, but meme sets can be blamed. This is why I renounce my prior association with the Democrat party.
9. The African museum starts at 1400 and ends with the pinnacle of black American culture: The election of President Obama, a half black half pink-skin Marxist. When Obama was elected I banged on pots & pans also I recall, in celebration. But Obama's subsequent actions turned my good will to ashes, particularly how he trashed those who voted for Trump. Obama voters who decided to vote for Trump were trashed by Obama. Plus there's this issue: https://reason.com/2012/09/25/president-obama-says-we-must-condemn-tho <-traitorous to the Western Enlightenment & American projects.
10. Obama loved leftist terrorist Bill Ayers & anti-American anti-Enlightenment traitor Saul Alinsky. He also enjoyed anti-American racist race baiter Jeremiah Wright. Obama's father was basically an anti-Western-Civilization type guy whom Obama followed in the footsteps of.
11. Nothing of what D'Souza has reported on is mentioned at either museum. Actual historic facts don't fit into the preferred historical narrative of leftist elitist whites, academics, & race-baiting Ponzi scheme operating blacks & Amerindians.
12. I want all human groups to be successful, but not via cheating, Ponzi schemes, lying including lies of omission, and so on. The black & Amerindian communities are both hobbled by government dependence. Democrats helped replace the FATHER with the STATE in both communities. Democrat LBJ's Great Society destroyed the black family in America.
By the way a "native American" is anyone born in America. Amerindians are Amerindians. Using the term "native American" to only refer to Amerindians is a slap in the face & an insult to all born-innocent children natively born to America.
Children are born innocent & are not to blame for the sins of their ancestors nor for people who happen to have the same skin color. However we should take pride in the successes of our ancestors & all human groups.
The self hatred of the left is more toxic than self hatred on the right. At least the right values life & children & the traditional 1.2 billion year evolved family unit. Whereas the cultural left has a competition going to see who's the very best at not having children. Many black babies have been killed via leftist-whitey-promoted abortion.
Thus Obama is an overall a traitor to the Western Enlightenment / Western Civilization project.
The left has virtue signalling Ponzi schemes going on. The Ponzi scheme of climate hysteria. The Ponzi scheme of overpopulation concerns. The Ponzi scheme of the LGBTQPZ Stonewall SJW project.
Bruce Bagemihl gets all excited when non-human animals hump animals of the same gender. Big whoop. Such actions are an OUTLIER effect, NOT a selected for effect. Side-spray. Evidence of the incredible force of sex within sexual animals. But the "reason for the season" of sex, is the production of babies, period.
What type of animal celebrates a lack of continuance, of life? A broken one.
P.Z. Myers, is absolutely a retrograde piece of S. Not a biologist at all. Rather an anti-life leftist Marxist activist, and nothing more. Check out this vid (fast forward to 19 minute mark if needs be): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ch1XFqmGeM&t=19m10s
Myers' utterly myopic & petty, and unscientific assessments of human nature are display, plus on the his blog he's spent years engaging in petty & mean spirited attacks. He's had a career of doing this.
Well before Trump ran for president I had apt assessment of Myers, who is not a scientist, not in the least, regarding humans.
In any case:
Donald Trump embodies the working class values of my old-style Democrat father. A huge gift to the anti neocon Cindy Sheehan left, and to the native-born working class in America.
My family has been de facto booted from the U of U Health System. Socialized medicine fully exemplified.
The U, has blocked me from posting on their Hospital related public Facebook page. They also very quickly sent me generalized letters of threat after I used their public employee directly to complain about poor treatment. Additionally, the midwives at the U pushed abortion onto mothers who show up tired to their first OB visits. And if you complain about that, you will also get a letter of threat from the U.
Jessica Howsden in customer service, is a traitor to any semblance of public service.
The U is a rogue state agency. Does the Governor really want an agency pushing abortion onto new mothers? Or is the governor just a virtue signalling milquetoast RINO? All talk. No action. While the U runs rough shot over the First Amendment, patient rights, patient safety, oh and promotes abortion too. An unaccountable bureaucracy.
Because of the highly hostile, unaccountable, and abortion-promoting atmosphere at the U, we've taken our business elsewhere. Elsewhere from a state agency we are still forced to pay our taxes to.
Welcome to socialized medicine.
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University of Utah Hospital University of Utah Hospitals & Clinics Greenwood Center Redwood Center Madsen Center Midvies College of Nursing Medical School School of Medicine Abortion pro-life pro life
I'm moving to Minds.com, and to Twitter more as a means of sharing my memes. And youtube. The latter two are controlled by San Fran elitist anti-Enlightenment SJWs. I'm on my 2nd Twatter account for example.
In any case, here's where you can find my ideas & thoughts in addition to here:
January 23, 2019 commentary on why Hilton Hotels Suck.
Hilton Tampa Airport Westshore & Hilton Hotels generally suck.
When you're staying at a Hilton hotel, and when the onsite general manager physically threatens you, Hilton itself can offer you no immediate route for assistance. And they can do is "make note of your concerns and pass them along."
Hilton, operates as an unaccountable shell company. Reportedly Hilton doesn't actually own any hotels themselves. Instead all they do is license out their name.
Regarding the Hilton Tampa Airport Westshore and general manager Sebastian Hansen.
Original booking included the phrase "breakfast included." Upon check in at the hotel on 1-14-2019, a lady by the name of Hannah treated me like a liar – by tone, facial expression, response, and action. She stated that breakfast was not included with my room rate. Hannah told me that breakfast wasn’t included in the rate plan for my room. She said she’d have to call her manager to see if I could have breakfast or not, and that she’d call me back.
Because of the dismissive and non-trusting responses I received from hotel employee Hannah I next went up to my room to try & resolve the issue myself. Upon arriving in my room I phoned to my travel agent. They then phoned Hilton reservations, who verified that breakfast was included in my booking. This process took 15 minutes of my time on the phone with my travel agent.
Hilton reservations told my travel agent that they would send me an email confirmation proving the inclusion of breakfast, a confirmation I could then show to the front desk. The email never arrived. So next I phoned to Hilton reservations myself. They then phoned the hotel.
After 23 minutes on the phone with Hilton reservations speaking with the hotel, finally the reservations agent came on the line and said that the hotel had finally agreed to allow me to have breakfast.
Next, upon returning to the hotel, I phoned down to the front desk to complain about all the time spent on this issue.
A front desk lady offered to let me speak with her supervisor, who turned out to be the same Hannah to checked me in. I complained to Hannah about all the time spent. Hannah frequently cut me off as I was speaking to her over the phone. She quickly and immediately rebutted my complaint points. Her tone was dismissive and disrespectful. She routinely spoke over the top of me. Hannah, front desk agent for this hotel, was combative and inept.
About $320 for one night at this hotel, and while on a business trip, I have to spend about 45 minutes of my time trying to convince the hotel that breakfast is in fact included with my reservation.
And next, this Hannah becomes combative over the phone, talks over the top of me, and immediately seeks to rebut my complaint points.
On the morning of 1-15-2019 I went down to the front desk to inquire whether I needed a paper voucher for breakfast or not. At the front desk was an older man standing there. I didn’t know who the older man was.
The older man asked me how my stay was going. I responded not well. A female staff person behind the counter asked what the problems were. I then explained to her the experiences I had with staff member Hannah.
The lady behind the counter, began herself to immediately try & rebut my granular complaint points. When I said they should have called Hilton reservations while I was waiting at the desk instead of sending me away in an uncertain state, her response was a flippant dismissal and more immediate rebuttals.
When I said that the main point was that they should have dealt with the issue within two minutes of my standing at the desk while checking in via calling to Hilton reservations right then, instead of sending me away uncertain which then resulted in 45 minutes of my time over the phone, she flippantly responded that I should have given them more time to the fix the problem. Again a flippant response.
Because of the flippant way the lady was responding, I next stated that she was responding to me as if we were in kindergarten.
Now next, came the virtual hammer & thump from the older man standing outside the desk who I did not know the identity of, who was apparently watching my interaction with the behind the desk staff.
The man said: “I don’t appreciate the way you’re talking to my colleague there.”
The man looked strangely upset, and also very angry. His eyes were glazing, and he was shaking.
I however, wasn’t shaking. I wasn’t yelling. I wasn’t using expletives. But this man, looked upset.
I asked to the speak with the manager and he said he was the manager.
The man, also next took the hostile actions of choosing to next stand directly in front of me, looked me directly in the eyes, and the man purposefully stood closer to me – standing essentially right in my face. This physically threatening stance among men is generally regarded as absolutely a physical threat, as a prelude to physical violence. This man was angry and he wanted to clearly exercise coercive control over me. This man had clearly entered an unhinged state.
Even while this man this did, I tried to talk to the man in a reasonable manner, but the man became more and more angry. Again I did not yell nor I did not use expletives while speaking with the man. I just explained that his actions & the actions of his hotel were inappropriate. But the man would have none of it.
Next, the man said that if I didn’t like his hotel, I could find another property to stay at.
I told the man this was an inappropriate response.
Next the man demanded that I move to another part of the room to talk to him.
I refused and this also made the man more upset.
The man next stated that he didn’t care what I had to say. He said that I had a choice of either leaving or going to breakfast. One, or the other, period.
Next, I took out my phone and started typing the name of the man from his name tag. Sebastian Hansen. As I was typing the man next said “do you have a business card? I know you’re probably here on business. What company do you work for.”
Prior to my bothering to type the man’s name in he never once asked who I worked for.
I told the man that he was trying to dox me. He acted confused at the term, as doxing is an online term for someone trying to expose the personal information of someone online as a form of punishment & retaliation.
It was clear that the man, that is General Manager Sebastian Hansen, wanted to retaliate against me. Again the Sebastian Hansen never once asked me who I worked for, until I took the action of recording his name onto the notes section of my phone.
Next, I asked him for the phone number for his supervisor. Manager Hansen refused. He said I could call Hilton customer service but that he would not give me the phone number for the person who was his direct manager.
I left the area and went back to my room.
In my room I first spent a lot of time trying to reach Hilton customer service. They refused to tell me the name of the franchise company which actually owns the hotel I was staying at. All they would do, in spite of the horrid and threatening way I was treated by the general manager noted, is “make note of my complaint and pass along my comments” and that’s it.
Next, I started calling around to other Hilton properties in the Tampa area. When I called each property I asked to speak with the general manager of the properties. I found one property which was willing to help me find the name of the franchise company which actually owns the Hilton Tampa Airport Westshore.
On 1-16-2019 I finally reached the franchise company manager who is over Sebastian Hansen, and man who can be reached at 617-756-seven zero two six. It’s worth clearly noting that neither Hilton customer service, nor Mr. Hansen himself, would give me this info. It was only my own investigative work via calling other local Hilton properties was I able to find this info.
The franchise company manager said that I could stay at the hotel. But frankly, the severe damage was already done. Mr. Sebastian Hansen, General Manager for the Hilton Tampa Airport Westshore had already set up an incredibly hostile environment for my stay.
Even after the franchise owner called to Mr. Hansen, Mr. Hansen never once came to me and apologized for his outrageously uncouth, obtuse, hostile, and threatening actions toward me as a guest. Never, once.
In my first hand experience, observation, and opinion, the Hilton Tampa Airport Westshore and its manager Sebastian Hansen are prone to treating people in an incredibly hostile manner, if you complain too much. No matter how rude and inept their staff are, they will absolutely be prone to treating you and yours poorly, if you complain too much, and “give them too much lip.”
Southern Hospitality, not.
And Hilton corporate, to include the Hilton executive escalations department, cannot and will not help you WHILE YOU’RE ACTUALLY AT A HILTON HOTEL, and under threat from an unhinged manager who doesn’t know how to handle customer service complaints, nor how to train his own staff properly.
This hotel, the Hilton Tampa Airport Westshore, has uniquely verbally combative staff. And a manager who is combative & retaliative as well. Plus the unhinged uncouth old fart Sebastian Hansen will try and dox you for complaining, that is he’ll try & find out who your employer is so that he can complain about you to them. Also if you stand your ground, Sebastian Hansen will get right in your face, and he’ll also physically threaten you in my view and first hand observation.
And all, over breakfast, and inept staff who haven’t been properly trained on how to know when a customer has booked breakfast, and regarding staff who also are verbally combative when you complain about their ineptness and lack of training.
Avoid this property, and all Hilton hotels, at all costs. That is my recommendation to you.
