Wednesday, May 30, 2018

Recoverying from cults on the right and the left

Ok regarding meme sets called cults, I've been a member of more than one:

1st: The Mormon meme set. Still a cult, with a slow trajectory toward being less cult like. Founded by two polygamists who had a.) underage wives (this is called: pedophilia & child rape), and b.) wives who were still married to other men (this is called: adultery).

The Mo Church dumped polygamy, which was good, but splinter groups who also worship Joseph Smith continue the practice. I've toured first hand polygamous cities in & near Utah. And we've been bowling next to a gaggle of polygamous women & a few of their kids. I also see them at grocery stores near me on occasion. Splinter group Mormons.

In more recent years the Mo Church decided to micro-manage the sex lives of their members. In 1982 Prophet of God Spencer Kimball issued a directive stating that oral sex was not approved of god. Think about the content and procedure of such a letter going out to Mormon members. Consider very carfully the impact on the lives of regular people of such a directive.

Next Spencer Kimball told the youth of the church that masturbation could easily turn them into homosexuals. He also stated that >mandatory< interviews regarding masturbation were >required< with Mormon bishops. Such interviews were also common at the Mormon Missionary Training Center.

Consider very carefully the impact on people's lives of such misinformation & abuse.

Now, Kimball's lying abusive book Miracle of Forgiveness (oxymoron title) was recently removed from the Mo church distribution centers, after being present there in multiple languages. This happened with the past 5 years or so. But before about 5 years ago, this crap book was again in multiple languages, and given to young people & adults as required reading: https://archive.org/stream/MiracleOfForgiveness/MoF_djvu.txt

So, the dumping of Miracle of Forgiveness from the Mo Church distribution centers (the stores members go to buy religious study materials directly from the church), well that's a move in the non-cult direction.

But, and this is a huge point, the interrogations of young people & adults regarding sexual matters continues. Thus, still a cult.

If you question the leaders you are blocked from access to the temples of the church, and you might be put in trial and booted from the church. Thus, still a cult.

Some members will still threaten you personally if you publicly question church teachings and church leadership. Thus, still a cult.

There is still incredibly strong social pressure to >never< question what the top leaders say. Thus, still a cult.

2nd: The cult of cultural leftism, which I much later leaned results from cultural neomarxist postmodernism. The cultural left denies science & reason & evidence & human nature every day & all the time.

Was Margaret Sanger a eugenicist? Yes she was.

Do children absolutely require, for their own well being, a mother AND a father? Yes, for concrete and proven evolutionary reasons.

Does the birth control pill alter, in bad and dangerous ways, the mental health and mate preferences of human females? Yes.

Should a mother, ideally and if at all possible, stay home with her children for as long as possible, for the best well being of the children? Yes.

Are women paid less than men for equal work? No.

Is there systemic racism in America? No, and there's hasn't been any such for many years now.

Are humans a gender binary species? Yes.

Is capitalism & full free speech the best ways for humans to thrive best? Yes.

Did Karl Marx fundamentally misunderstand human nature? Yes. Do all socialist / communist / Marxist systems eventually fail? Yes. Are they human spirit destroying Ponzi schemes? Yes.

Is monogamy the best way for humans to mate & have kids, a system which is best both for female & male & children well being? Yes.

Do religions couch evolved morality & evolved traits? Yes.

What are the leftist answers to all the above? Pretty much exactly the opposite of what the facts & our own evolved natures show. Thus on point after point, the cultural left, is a fraking cult.

Masturbation doesn't make you a homosexual as was claimed by Spencer Kimball, although telling kids it easily can or will does unfortunately generate many ultra-leftist angry reactionaries who end up in the other-cult known as Stonewall & "Pride." But, when you're of dating age and especially when above the age of 21, directing your sexual energies toward inherent reproduction is a strategy for success.

I spent many years as an ultra-leftist reactionary. A ping pong game from ultra-right to ultra-left. From one cult to another.

A few of my nephews & nieces (and an uncle) weren't unscathed from the abuses of the ultra-left. And frankly those who were hobbled (& killed) were victims of BOTH the ultra-right AND the ultra-left. A reactionary pingpong game.

Yes people deserve to know the truth. Are you being held back by entrenched dogma & doctrines? A dogma is a premise which cannot be questioned by definition.

Yes we can question whether cultural neomarxist postmodernism is a cult and comprises a set of lies or not. Yes we can question human nature. We can question whether scientific propositions are true or not.

Joseph Smith was a charlatan, but there's a great deal of charlatanry going on on the cultural left also, charlatanry with far wider abusive scope than the influence of the itty bitty religion of Mormonism.

Wednesday, May 23, 2018

The Value of Foreign Brides: Life! Family! - Responding to Stefan Molyneux



The Value of Foreign Brides: Life! Family! Responding to Stefan Molyneux on the issue. Also general commentary on Molyneux's social issue call in shows.

I like 70% of what Stefan Molyneux does with his YouTube show, but the 20-30% social issue call ins are a problem.

My response to the following Molyneux video, and more generally to all of his social issue call ins:
https://youtu.be/CyIM4d_-rcY

To Molyneux:

There is something perverse regarding your fixation on being anti to all things “foreign bride.”

You treat all flowers the same, with an overly harsh broad brush. You have an apparent fixation on the foreign brides issue, and on marrying people outside of your own country. You're not a U.S. citizen (I presume) and yet you seem to comment a great deal about who is allowed or welcome to come to America. You de facto express disdain for a situation where American men might cause some non-American humans to enter America, for any reason. Love. Having a more meaningful life. Children. That's all mostly of no meaning apparently to you, because those men are causing non-Americans to come in. This is the general tone of your approach in my view. But you're not even American, again I presume. You're Canadian.

As for your general social issue call ins: They sound staged. Who, exactly, would call to a stranger and reveal such things, and place their hearts in your cold and harsh hands? Hands cold and overly harsh due apparently to your own problematic upbringing.

Yes your philosophy and anti-Marxism shows are ok. But as for the social issue call ins, bring me a bucket Stefan.

There is beauty and valiance in the world which you know nothing of. Your social issue callers don’t deserve you nor your abuse toward them.

On Marxism and socialism, ok good work. But your cruel crass approach on social issues, is solely your own angry ghosts in action more than anything else.

Wednesday, April 25, 2018

Redpilling from the left to the pragmatic center right.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z3A_IqRIaQ



General overview of redpilling from the cultural left (i.e. the Democrat party, socialism, Marxism including postmodernism, and fascism which is solely a leftist phenomenon) to the right.

General advocacy for the naturalistic value of social conservatism and valuing life. Not wasting time. Making hay while the sun shines.

4-19-2018

Tuesday, April 17, 2018

Tranny Freaks, Stonewall SJW Faggyfags, Feminazis, and bearded Islamic theocrats want you censored on Twitter and Facebook

Tranny Freaks, Stonewall SJW Faggyfags, Feminazis, and bearded Islamic theocrats want you censored on Twitter and Facebook.



A badge of honor. Banned from Twitter for 12 hours in response to posts I made on March 27, 2018.

The regressive left. The totalitarian left. The abuse enabling left.

A gold star onto the forehead of whomever is the very best at not having children.

Enabling and protecting life-destroying choices. Twitter. Facebook.

Thus: Operation Clambake Stonewall-SJW edition, continues. A multiplication and amplification shall take place.

Censored post on Twitter:

@navyhato @MGTOWBliss
@lads_alliance
@holybibletoday @Partisangirl @facebook Facebook protects Stonewall faggyfag SJWs (incl. tranny freaks), feminazis, and bearded Islamic theocrats. https://t.co/jgJ0o3SjMk

[link above goes to my blog page: Facebook Censorship: Gender Dysphoria and Faisal Saeed Al Mutar. The Authoritarian Left. http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2018/03/facebook-censorship-gender-dysphoria.html ]

Twitter’s messages:

Violating our rules against hateful conduct.
You may not promote violence against, threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease.

As a result, we’ve temporarily limited some of your account features. While in this state, you can still browse Twitter, but you’re limited to only sending Direct Messages to your followers –– no Tweets, Retweets, follows, or likes. Learn more. Your account will be restored to full functionality in: 12 hours and 0 minutes.

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I was on there with a pseudonym. There’s more where that came from.

As for FB the fight continues here also. San Fran freakazoids.

And I say this as a guy who’s seen lives destroyed in my own family via the abusive permissiveness of the cultural left. Real lives, real families, destroyed.

Sunday, March 25, 2018

Facebook Censorship: Gender Dysphoria and Faisal Saeed Al Mutar. The Authoritarian Left.




The Authoritarian Left controls social media, and that is a huge problem. A free exchange of ideas is not possible when leftists have their hands on the censorship and block buttons.

Most recent example in point:

Recently Faisal Saeed Al Mutar expressed appreciation for the following story:

"Pakistan's first transgender newscaster appears on TV screen"
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/296262-pakistans-first-transgender-newscaster-appears-on-tv-screen

Faisal's response:
#Great

I posted an initial response. Other people responded to my post. I responded to them. Then today March 25, 2018 I received a notice from Facebook that I was being blocked from posting for three days.

Fuck Facebook Censorship. Mark Zuckerberg, Go Fuck Yourself! The authoritarian left in Silicon Valley, micromanaging the thoughts of the planet (well, they're trying as hard as they can anyway). And Facebook is a large enabling force promoting forced gender dysphoria acceptance (aka tranny freak acceptance).

Also regarding Faisal, well in my view he's mostly a cookie-cutter leftist. Came from Iraq. Jumped into leftist atheism. Big whoop. His views are predictable and myopic. A leftist socially. An appreciator of moron Sam Harris.  I follow him on Facebook because I appreciated some of his stances, but he basically has no clue regarding how gender dysphoria is abusively-enabled by the left.

My original comment in response to Faisal:
The mental illness of gender dysphoria spreads.

SJWism and denialist neomarxist social constructivist postmodernism spreading, is #abusive , #stupid , and #notgreat.

The left places gold stars on the foreheads of whomever is the very best, at not having children.

Having the general denialist life destroying meme set of leftism spread, is sad.

You advocate for the tenants of what is essential a denialist abusive cult.

http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/07/lives-and-families-are-destroyed-by.html
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I received a response from one of Faisal's fans stating that I should "suck it." My response to them:
Good people who actually breed are already required by rape-culture Hollywood to suck on a huge Ɠąվ Tɾąղղվ لօհղ Tհօʍąʂ, culturally.

The left wants into our bedrooms far more than the right, in the West.

https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/09/leftist-atheists-want-into-your-bedroom.html
—————— Additional responses posted in response to other responses received:
Apparently in Faisal’s mind a pinnacle-level achievement has been reached. A gender dysphoric victim of leftist denial of basic human nature and human evolution, becomes a newscaster in Pak.

What an achievement.

Score one for the death of the Enlightenment.
And eugenicist Margaret Sanger’s birth control pill contributes to the abuse also along side neomarxist postmodernism. Today’s flat-earthers.
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Gabriel Carter thank eugenicist Sanger.

Female mate preference altered.

Lives robbed of children.

Unnatural lives.

Your average Whole Foods shopper would one would think want to live as naturally as possible. But stereotypically such pop eugenicist Sanger’s pill like candy.

Thus, block 1.2 years of evolutionary history as sexual animals, at our peril.

....another key way the left interferes with people’s bedroom activities more than the right.

Milo is right:
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/08/birth-control-makes-women-unattractive-and-crazy/

When science debunks a cherished leftist view, now that is an inconvenient truth.
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Théo Blue wtf. Hardly a cure. Transitioning is a path to rather highly probable suicide. Also one cannot transition.

Humans are a sexually dimorphic species. Two genders, not changeable.

Humans are not born blank slates. Remember that point? And humans can be sucked into destructive dead end cults.

Being trans is to be a member of a destructive dead end cult.

A life robbed of inherent reproduction and natural born children.

And a damn high suicide rate.
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Yazmina Kara gender dysphoria is caused by the moron science denying neomarxist cult of postmodernism.

DNA codes for gender period.

If the “body image” doesn’t match, then that is a mental illness. A problem. And it’s a problem egged on and rewarded by the cultural left.

A hierarchy  of group right and group blames. A victimhood hierarchy. This is what the left operates. And “coming out” as a non-reproductive outlier of whatever type is a way to rise up on this hierarchy the left operates.

Abuse. A form of suicide. Lives and families destroyed. Yes the left interferes in people’s bedroom activities, that is reproductive activities far more than the right.

The right live lives which are functionally more true, in good ways, to our evolutionary heritage.
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Aishik Adhikary lives are destroyed by bad meme sets. Why care about that? For the same reason we care about members of Jim Jones style cults.

Neomarxist postmodernism is a de facto cult. Marxism too. Leftism in general denies science and evolution far more than the right.

Non-binary gender BS.

The claim one can change genders BS.

Denying the sexually dimorphic nature of humans, BS.

Abusively rewarding people for “coming out” as non-reproductive outliers, BS.
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Aishik Adhikary lgbtqaaipzpfwhatever.

We are born with brains which can be hijacked and sucked into destructive dead end cults.

Sexual inversion of whatever type is n-o-t selected for by evolution. Rather such proclivities, where they actually exist, are simply noise resulting from the imprecise way evolution works.

In the case of humans though, because our brains can be and are easily sucked into wrong thinking wrong headed destructive meme sets, I suspect the born-that-way status is far more rare than the abuse victims and their enablers claim.

A gold star on the foreheads of those robbed of inherent reproduction. A high social reward from the left. Oh and females taught to hate males, to hate having children, and to deny their own natures as females, also serves as an enabling force for more males being sucked into abusive dead end sexual inversion.

It’s not my fault the right is right on social issues. The religious right don’t understand why they are right on social issues, even though they are. Why is this the case? Religions couch evolved traits. Couch.

Daniel Dennett’s dangerous idea re religion being a natural phenomenon, a dangerous idea which even he doesn’t understand the full impact of.

Yes there may be femmy men and manly women born, but consider what their life paths would have been 100 or 1000 or 10000 years ago? Inherent reproduction.

We are sexual animals. The cultural left robs people of this key trait and key life part, the most key trait of all.

Lives destroyed by bad memes. LGBTQnon-reproduction whatever. Members of a denialist dead end suicidal cult. Lives robbed of our true heritage as sexual animals.
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Aymen Adhami Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist. She wanted to cull the poor and the blacks. Her baby killing abattoir known as Planned Parenthood does this every day.

Black lives don’t matter much to your neighborhood abortion clinic.

Why do blacks jump at the chance to kill their own? Perhaps for the same reason they belong en masse to the political party which enslaved their ancestors, the Democrat party.

https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/03/margaret-sanger-also-amoral-fuck.html
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Chris Tunstall confirmation bias. Rise up on that hierarchy of group rights, group blames, and victimhood competition.

Also consider how sperm competition works in SJW land: basically whomever is the sneakiest of fuckers gets access to more pussy.

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2015/06/03/effete-beta-males-and-the-sneaky-fucker-strategy/

The SJW beta male. By f how is he supposed to transmit his dna to SJW females? “Coming out” as gender fluid or gender non-binary may be one way.

Re the scientific term sneaky fucker, more info:

https://mobile.twitter.com/gadsaad/status/867909311531503616

——excerpted quote begins:

The term “sneaky fuckers” was coined by evolutionary biologist John Maynard Smith to describe subordinate males who take advantage of opportunity to mate with females while dominant males are otherwise occupied.

—-end of quote.
 —————— end of original comment & replies to others, all censored by Facebook.

Friday, February 2, 2018

Libertarian Atheists are often just abusively permissive leftist hippies

Libertarian Atheists, are usually abusively permissive Leftist Hippies.

Case in point:

In response to the post quoted below, 40 or so rather negative responses came back including one death threat against the original poster. After receiving the death threat, the original poster added a long comment in reply, after which the group admins booted the original poster.

The group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/LibertarianAtheist/ - AKA Libertarian Atheists.

These people, self-described libertarian atheists, have no concept of what human nature is, and zero respect for our evolutionary heritage.

In the follow post "NIP" means non-interference principle, something self described libertarians claim to believe in.


------------ quote begins original post in the Libertarian Atheist group:

Every time I hear Joe Rogan I am inclined to say to him: “you’re a moron. Pot does rot your brain. Also ‘letting people live their lives’ doesn’t take into account how people can be sucked into de facto (secular) cults. And there is a difference between government mandates and just doing social shaming for at least some destructive behaviors - although I’m not pro pot legalization nor for allowing non-reproductive outliers to suck kids into their unnatural-for-the-children ‘relationships.’”

I guess I’m a classic liberal too, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to ignore observed facts or what a given redpill might reveal, nor ignore how evolution works and our evolved natures.

The following is a list of my current views which shall probably trigger leftist-hippie libertarians, and so what:

1. Sexual organs are for making babies.

2. Humans are a sexually dimorphic species. Two genders period, and unchangeable.

3. Gayness appears to be largely a forced chosen outlier state, for most people who self identify as such.

Yes there’s gay non-human animals, but this is solely because the force of evolution on this front produces a certain percentage of non-reproductive outliers.

Thus to any extent that their are actually natural born human gays (as opposed to victims sucked into a de facto nihilistic death cult), they are >not< selected for. Rather they, are simply mistakes generated by the machinery and force regarding how evolution works.

4. We should imo salute valiant people like Doug Mainwaring who realize children should and must come first.

5. Climate Change Hysteria has zero connection with real and true and honest science.

6. Religions couch evolved traits and morals.

7. Christianity is superior to Islam and Judaism. Islam greatly and abusively amplifies out-group morality.

8. Christianity laid the foundation for a Reformation and Enlightenment. Men on the moon. America. Bringing humanity out of the largely Islam caused Dark Ages.

9. Overpopulation is a myth created by anti human nihilists.

10. If fat shaming works then why not gay and trans and bi shaming.

11. Margaret Sanger was a horrible racist eugenicist.

12. Race and IQ are inseparably linked.

13. The Democrat party was and still is about slavery.

14. Pot does rot your brain. And who pays for rehab and the impacts resulting from damaged and hijacked brains? Me via tax money.

15. Trump is a wonderful and highly useful president.

Denialist hippie triggering concluded.

------------end of quote.

After receiving 40 or so negative type replies, including one death threat from a group member, the following addendum was posted. This addendum comment resulted in the original poster being banned from "Libertarian Atheists."

Not so libertarian. Mostly abusively permissive leftist (GD) hippies.

------------ quote begins of comment posted after receive 40 negative replies including one death threat, from so-called "libertarian" atheists, a comment which then resulted in a ban from the group:

There's no such thing as a non-interference principle in a social animal.

Joe Rogan, and his dittoheaded followers frequently resort to the use of loud expletives as a means of conveying supposed arguments. The louder the expletive is spoken (or typed in capitals), the stronger the argument is supposed to be.

Yes it's possible to assess what a group is like by their responses to a given argument pr set or arguments & points. The tone of their responses.

In the above list so far, I see one death threat. How's that for your gd interference principle.

Now, as for a reasoned argument, which I don't think you're able to process really, is as follows:

Humans tend to gather in groups and draw up rules. You know, rules again: murder, rape, cheating. Stuff like that. There's also rules of war, for when another tribe attacks yours. I don't "love" Trump, but I agree with Milo he has damn high utilitarian value, and I also agree with Milo that Trump was the best de-facto librarian on the ballot.

Leftists (including leftist libertarians) force their will onto me and mine all the time.

At >two< government-run local art museums, they have mandatory "gender neutral" restrooms where the mentally-ill gender-dysphoric memetic-children-of-neomarxist-postmodernism men, get to spy on women & girls in the restrooms there.

Gays, force their will onto others all the time, at cake shops, at the adoption center, and on and on. They seek to use the force of law, of the State, to impose their will.

Potheads and other druggies damage their brains. They can end of jobless and on rehab. Who pays for their rehab? And who pays for how pothead parents basically F up the lives of their kids via having easy access to a brain hijacking chemical?

So, who exactly is forcing whom on these fronts?

The gender dysphoric and their leftist enablers, are forcing me.

The gays, are forcing me.

The potheads and other druggies, are forcing me.

The neomarxist postmodernists, are forcing me.

So, why exactly should I give a shit? This was asked more than once. Why would I give one blooding fucking rats ass, what someone else does with "their body." Why? Why? Why?

Because, dumb-S (yes I'll now resort ot the use of exlitives myself, well after one death threat in this thread so far), humans are social animals. Because what you do, affects me. What you do, affects your family. And if you're pregnant, what you do, affects someone who isn't you - the baby inside.

NIP my ass.

As social animals humans have a tendency to make up group rules which help discourage destructive dead end behaviors. So be. Yes not everything is equal. Yes there's a balance between 100% freedom and responsibility. In fact we cannot have freedom without responsibility - something your average pothead lib has mostly forgot. "And don't ask me to pay for your rehab either" - I'd say to them.

For you, yes you, "libertarian" means the freedom to be left alone to do your shit. Smoke pot. Do some bitcoining. More pot. More bitcoining. Add some pot. Joe Rogan libertarianism I guess. Not mine really.

Oh my god, what a mess:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
"Left-libertarianism encompasses those libertarian beliefs that claim the Earth's natural resources belong to everyone in an egalitarian manner, either unowned or owned collectively..."

Response: Earth's natural resources belong to everyone? F-ing Communism!

"Right-libertarianism developed in the United States in the mid-20th century and is the most popular conception of libertarianism in that region. It is commonly referred to as a continuation or radicalization of classical liberalism. Right-libertarians value the social institutions that enforce conditions of capitalism, while rejecting institutions that function in opposition to these institutions."

Response: Ok classical libertalism advocacy, and pro-capitalism.

But how does being pro-capitalism mean you get to kill a baby inside your womb, or that you get to smoke pot & f-up your life (next stop: rehab & getting my tax money - but what of the sacred NIP?), and the lives of your family (NIP gone, again)? How does being pro-capitalism mean you get to adopt a child into your unnatural-for-the-children outlier (gay or trans) relationship?

Oh yes my views are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Victorian.

Hey I likes me some tits and ass as much as the next red blooded American male. But tits and asses are for making kids, ok?

Human nature. Human evolution. What helps humanity thrive best.

Yes I admit and agree that the American project is the best way devised thus far. And if democracy can only be maintained when a general population has an IQ above a certain level, then your dreams of a utopian "libertarian" society look even >more< far off and more like a pipe dream.

Yes of course the State has grown too big.

But it's fascinating (and f-ing annoying) to me that ALL THESE PEOPLE who want to be left alone to do their thang, don't wish to leave me and mine alone.

Gender neutral restrooms where lookiloo men get to spy on women & girls.

Babies killed en masse by Margaret Sanger's abattoir.

Brains damaged and families destroyed by all those drugs which are just, by F, none of my business.

None of my business. None of my business. Don't f-up my party bro!

Leftist hippies indeed. And yes I'm generally for classical liberalism. Thus as you prepare to press the boot button, keep that in mind.

As for the rest, since the thread did include one death threat from one oh-so-kind NIP-loving lib, I'll say this: F U.

------------ end of quote of comment which resulted in a ban from a libertarian atheists group.

Many self described libertarians aren't libertarian at all. Rather, they're just abusive morons who mostly want to force you, and everyone else, to pay for their excesses and abuse.

Wednesday, October 11, 2017

Leftist Charlatan Virtue Signalers Want Your Money



The de facto religions of the left, and the charlatan leaders of these cults, want your money.

The Clintons

Al Gore

Al Sharpton

Climate Change Hysterical Whores
The Stonewall Warriors and the Outlier-Rights whore groups
Planned Parenthood systematic poor & black person killing org.

All these virtue signalling leftist cult leaders & charlatan groups, want your money.

Historically religious charlatans would set up tents, and they'd say to the assembled crowd: "I am the most moral, give me your money."

Virtue signalling as a means of enhancing cash flow.

Yes there is good human morality. But the cultural left shows they have zero association with good morality.

For years virtue signalling leftists essentially sucked the John Thomas of rapist Bill Clinton.

Then Friend of Bill Al Gore found a way to use his own type of charlatanry as a means of getting cash.

While leftists support the 'right' to be a non-reproductive outlier, and to have such outliers shove their own implements right down the mouths of the normal inherently-reproductive people, well they also want cash in association with their lying cheating virtue signalling. Normal women & girls & families, to the f-ing back of the bus with these wastrels.

Redpill, from charlatans who want your money, and who use moralistic virtue signalling as a means of getting cash.

Yes there's good human morality, and that morality indicates that calling out f-ing cheaters is a damn useful activity.

October 11, 2017

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'Sam Harris, Michael Shermer, Neil deGrasse Tyson: Priests in the Cult of Climate Hysteria'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/09/sam-harris-michael-shermer-neil.html

'Choose Life! Reject the violent fascist marxist racist enslaving death cult of the left'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/10/choose-life-reject-violent-fascist.html

'Leftist atheists want into your bedroom far more than the right! Evolved morality is couched within religious contexts. An open letter to 'New Atheists,' such as Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, Faisal Saeed Al Mutar, and others. Also to: The Atheism Plus crowd. Atheists of Utah. Atheist Community of Austin. Unitarian Universalist 'humanist' groups. To all these.'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/09/leftist-atheists-want-into-your-bedroom.html

'Banned from a conservative atheists facebook group: conservatives who aren't conservative.'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/08/banned-from-conservative-atheists.html

'The Batons of Christopher Hitchens; The natural underpinnings of social conservatism; Jordan Peterson's work'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/02/the-batons-of-christopher-hitchens.html

'Leaving the Fascist Marxist Left'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/02/leaving-fascist-marxist-left.html

'The Western Enlightenment versus Democrat leftist slavery'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-western-enlightenment-versus.html

'Trump versus Hillary: Trump had better Be the Republic!'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2016/11/trump-versus-hillary-trump-had-better.html

'The Problems with Hillary Clinton'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-problems-with-hillary-clinton.html

'My Journey to Conservatism'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2016/09/my-journey-to-conservatism.html

Monday, October 9, 2017

Mormon Bishops are Child Abusers

Mormon Bishops are Child Abusers



Mormon Bishops routinely interrogate children and adults regarding sexual issues, and especially regarding masturbation.

Are you masturbating?
Are you masturbating?
Are you masturbating?

Mormons, and especially Mormon Bishops, want to know!

This is the key question Mormon Bishops ask children, again, and again, and again. Children as young as 8 through the age of 25 - oh and especially at the Mormon Missionary Training Center (MTC) in Provo, Utah. But even in the regular meeting houses, if you masturbate as an 11-19 year old, you are required to go confess to your Mormon Bishop! After age 19, the Mormon Missionary structure takes over the asking. Then when you come home again after your Mormon mission, they'll still be asking.

Yes it's true that they do, universally, interrogate & grill the boys on this, but there is spill over effect onto the girls (cycle of abusive shame - teaching children to hate their own bodies).

Also, as per a widely distributed book within Mormonism, 'Miracle of Forgiveness' by Mormon Prophet Spencer Kimball, masturbation can easily make you a homosexual! Yes that's right, masturbation can make you a 'gay!' This message was told to me when I was young, and thus the Mormon Church is how I first learned about the existence of homosexuality. Next they taught me that if I masturbated, I could easily become a homosexual.

Suicides have resulted from this rampant widespread child abuse.

One such example, the suicide of Kip Eliason:
http://thoughtsonthingsandstuff.com/a-latter-day-tragedy-suicide-over-masturbation/

Also there's a very popular 'Pride' culture in Salt Lake City. I argue the main reason for this is because children who're abused via this cycle-of-shaming scheme, grow up to be reactionary ultra-leftists in response. Thus the Mormon Church is an ultra-leftist generation machine.

Relevant clip from the film The God Makers, regarding the suicide of Kip Eliason.



Longer clip:

https://youtu.be/ljzVkt-I4Co

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As the answer to the following question appears to be YES:

'Is the Mormon Church still interrogating children and adults about masturbation?'

Thus this page was born.

Some of my former Mormon bishops: Ronald J. Pugmire & Larry Reaveley.

Thursday, October 5, 2017

Is the Mormon Church still interrogating children and adults about masturbation?

Is the Mormon Church still interrogating children and adults about masturbation?

Spencer Kimball & Boyd Packer, past & present prophets / Apostles of God, want into YOUR bedroom and the bedrooms of your children.

Teaching children to hate their own evolved sexual natures as they are coming of age, IS a reactionary ultra-leftist generation machine.


Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7StK16_cPQ


A related exchange from Facebook, quote begins:

I suggest that the way Mormonism deals with sexuality, results in the >exact opposite< of what they're hoping to accomplish.

Recently I encountered Jordan B. Peterson (JBP). I appreciate his approach, honestly, and general pragmatic social conservatism.

Below is a copy of an open letter I shared with him.

I am, now, fully on board with the pro-family pro-life pro-1.2-billion-year-evolved-marriage pro-reproduction pro-children project, but only after observing much of what the abusively permissive ultra left has to offer.

'Choose to be a non-outlier if you can'

I know there's a lot of non-Mormon Christians who're part of recovery from leftist crap. On the Mormon / Christian front there's a relevant old film called The Godmakers which mentions a boy named Kip who killed himself as a result of the Mormon approach.

Relevant clip from the film The God Makers:


------ quote of letter shared with JBP

You've had some questions regarding Mormonism of late. Here's more info.

In response to your general work & for where you touch upon human sexual nature topics:

FYI Mormonism has: a.) frequent required interrogations re masturbation for adolescents & adults, b.) claims from their past prophets that masturbation can lead to homosexuality, c.) a 1982 letter from their leadership stating that oral sex is prohibited. These types of cultural religious requirements tend to generate reactionary ultra-leftists in response, a fact which otherwise defeats the top-level general good intentions of religions like Mormonism.

The founders of Mormonism had underage wives & wives who were still legally married to other men. I'm an ex-Mormon and it's taken me a very long time to recover, first from ultra-right Mormonism, and next from reactionary ultra-leftism.

Now I'm center-right socially & economically. Also I transitioned from being a morbidly obese virgin living in my parent's basement, to a somewhat less heavy regular-house-dwelling father of three with a happy family.

I appreciate your general advocacy for social conservatism, but this is an FYI note that some ultra-right religions do actively generate reactionary ultra-leftists. Interrogating youngsters regarding masturbation teaches them to hate their own evolved sexual natures.

I've listened to your stated stances on these topics and I generally agree with you. For sure our energies in these regards should be directed toward an inherently-reproductive partner. But when adolescents and adults are 'pushed too far,' results can happen which are the exact and precise opposite of what should generally be hoped & aimed for.

The ultra-left is no panacea utopian 'answer' to the ultra-right. Instead I suggest the answers lie with pragmatic honesty regarding human nature & what prompts humans to live happy lives.

References:
...as on a parody website, but the quoted letter is quite real.

2. Mormon-Prophet issued book stating that masturbation can lead to homosexuality, a book given to many youngsters w/in Mormonism: https://archive.org/stream/MiracleOfForgiveness/MoF_djvu.txt

3. My own exit journal, on what is now a legacy website which reflects the time when I was still a reactionary ultra-leftist:

4. My more recent blog which documents my transition from ultra-left to basically center right economically & socially. http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/

5. Wives of the founders of Mormonism:



6. Hundreds of stories of others who've left Mormonism:


7. Anti-masturbation pamphlet given to many adolescents in Mormonism:


8. Another set of instructions given to young boys on the topic of masturbation:


E.g.: "...yell STOP to those thoughts as loudly as you can in your mind."

In-person required interrogations of impressionable youth conducted by Mormon Bishops, interrogations starting as early as age 10.

Telling adolescents that masturbation can make one gay. For myself this was my first introduction to homosexuality - the Mormon Church telling me that if I masturbated I could become gay.

Telling adolescents to yell "STOP" in their minds when they have sexual thoughts.

Intrusive child & adult abuse.

For sure relations with real flesh & blood people of the opposite sex is preferable, but the above illustrations are frankly outright child abuse, and like I say ultra-leftist reactionaries are absolutely generated in response to the above highly hypocritical scheme, hypocritical in light of the documented actions of the founders of Mormonism.

In Salt Lake City there's very active & well attended 'Gay Pride' events, the headquarters of Mormonism. Two sides of the same coin. FYI.

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[I received a response from an LDS person at BYU (Brigham Young Universitiy) who scoffed at my account. My response to them:]

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The LDS Church, is IMO a gay person generator. Yes the approach of the Mormon Church drives people into the hands of the denialist left. On topic I suggest.

When 10 year olds are interrogated on the issue referenced, there's costs.

Yes I know that non-Mormon Christian churches want people to recover from being gay. That's great. Doug Mainwaring's path, is super & I support it.

But, as I note, the non-Mormon Christians have some rather strong concerns regarding the Mormon approach - as noted in the God Maker's film which documents the suicide of Kip Eliason.

I support the general top level social conservative goals of churches like Mormonism. But I'm suggesting they're shooting themselves in the foot by taking an approach which does drive people into the hands of the reactionary denialist left.

I suppose there's some value in culture for making note of how people's lives are actually lived. When I protested Mormonism, holding up Bruce Bagemihl's book 'Biological Exuberance,' I was a reactionary noob. Got my picture in the paper for the privilege. Now I see Bagemihl's approach as being myopic.

What's 'selected for' with humans is inherent reproduction. What makes humans the most happy, is reproduction. Life. Having children. Nihilism is a dead end.

Yes the Mormon Church is tempering their approach. The book widely handed out to church youth, Miracle of Forgiveness, which taught that masturbation would make you gay, is no longer in LDS Church distribution centers. Thank goodness. And many people, including many Mormons reportedly, are glad it's no longer there. But I suspect the interrogations of 10-14 year olds is still taking place. These kids first exposure to homosexuality, is via these interviews & teachings.

Cruising along as a normal kid, and then you encounter this crap? There are costs. The death of Kip Eliason. And yes, I would suggest, a hugely popular 'Pride' culture going on in Salt Lake. Reactions to going too far.

So I agree there's darn high value to the promotion of inherent reproduction. For god if you wish. For Jesus, that's fine. But also to honor 1.2 billion years of our own evolution as sexual animals - 1.2 billion years being the amount of time sex has existed on this planet.

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[The BYU man told me that 'anecdotal accounts' mean nothing, but also that the anecdotal accounts of 'millions' of Mormons should be highly respected:]

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First hand observations & cogent reflections. Gay uncle, dead of AIDS due to the glory hole culture of San Fran, leaving his straight family with no father. He grew up in Manti, Utah. From ultra-right to ultra-left, then dead.

Gay nephew, sucked into gay culture after having really an overly harsh Mormon father and a passive Mormon mother.

Myself, a reactionary ultra-leftist social justice warrior for several years until I woke up & decided to stop being a nihilist.

First hand lived experiences as a Mormon. Seeing other's experiences.

I'm 100% on board with 5-word-top-level summaries of what Mormons advocate for socially, but I only joined that ship after many years of an Alice in Wonderstand style journey through the dystopian denialist left.

Not to offend anyone, but I see religion as a fully natural phenomenon. Evolved traits couched within religious contexts. The Christian tradition is rather more valuable than others, because it allowed for a Reformation & Enlightenment.

If the Mormon Church is still interrogating 11 year olds about masturbation, such acts have costs I suggest. What are the costs other than the occasional suicide? 'Pride' I suggest. Stonewall reactionaries who see it as their key mission to defeat, the otherwise mostly-good & valuable family values that come out of 50 E. N. Temple (or 47 E. S. Temple).

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not taking things out of the air. First hand observations & reflections. If you don't agree that's ok...

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Can you confirm or deny the interrogations referenced are still taking place? Widespread, or not so much?

Not to quell the Lord's Path to Truth or anything. Life does kind of suck, for the canary who has to actually enter the coal mine.

Does the squeaky wheel get the grease or the hammer within the gilded cage? I've had many hammers swung at me over the years, from the right and the left (mostly from the left these days, but I'll take all comers).

The elephant in the room.

The de facto cultural link, between 47 E. S. Temple and 255 E. 400 S.

Regarding anecdotal accounts:

The experiences of millions? Wouldn't that be just a higher number of easily-dismissible anecdotal accounts?

I don't claim anecdotal accounts should be automatically dismissed.

I'm just saying that on one hand you discount my experiences, the lived experiences of others, the suicide of the young man Kip referenced, while at the same time claiming that the anecdotal experiences of others should be rather highly valued.

'Pride' can just grow & grow & grow & grow in Salt Lake, and the guys in the Church Admin building can go on their course pretty much ambivalent to what I'm talking about I suppose. But frankly, I think there >is< a creep of SJWism (social justice warriorism) within Church HQ.

Kimball's horrible book as referenced, gone from the Church Distribution centers. Ding Dong The Witch is Dead - the song comes to mind.

On the creeping-SJW front: At the Utah Museum of Fine Arts, where LDS Church owned property is on display, they now have signs which state that "UMFA acknowledges that gender is not binary."

Art department managers now get to negate 1.2 billion years of history & our own evolved nature?

I have notified the Mormon Church about the signage and the risks such signs pose to women (the signs also say that men can use the women's restrooms if they want). Women of course, real women, have zero choice in this matter.

What's the response of the Mormon Church to this situation, after being notified? Crickets.

I know they teach evolution and biology at BYU, as I've been there first hand (yet another one of those pesky anecdotal accounts).

I'm aware that this forum is intended to serve as a support structure apparently for people who'd like to recover from denialist leftism and who'd like to live lives of inherent reproduction.

As a man with children, I don't want to see my children sucked into the denialist cult of abusively-permissive-leftism. The leftist cult which wants to put a gold star on the foreheads of those who're the very best, at not having children.

The people at the helm of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ, have apparently chosen to shelve Kimball's horrible book. That Is Progress.

More Christians. And even More Mormons. That's ok. But on the other hand, child abuse is child abuse. And the types of interrogations mentioned, IMO turn some of the victims into ultra-leftist reactionaries.

Why would I bother to even have this discussion? What's >my< agenda on this front? I want people to be happy, and I want the truth to be out there. The truth is the ultra-left is not a panacea answer to the ultra-right.

If you visit Pride, and Stonewall, and the Unitarian Universalist Churches, and Atheist of Utah parties (A of U is now run by Stonewall SJWs - and they booted me when I told them I liked Duck Dynasty) - if you were to visit these places you'd find cultural refugees who're basically 'in recovery' from the Kimball-Packer approach to things.

If people can find happiness via being Mormon, that's ok mostly, but children should not be interrogated for masturbation when they're coming of age, interrogated by strangers. And the costs for doing such are many.

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'Questions for Mormon Missionaries - God, Sex, and honesty | 16 questions for Mormon Missionaries'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/03/questions-for-mormon-missionaries-god.html


As the answer to the question I post appears to be yes, after checking, the following new page was created:
'Mormon Bishops are Child Abusers'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/10/mormon-bishops-are-child-abusers.html