Showing posts with label Presuppositional Apologetics. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Presuppositional Apologetics. Show all posts

Friday, July 5, 2013

Atheist Family Values: Attention Exmormon Foundation: humans have children. And more on presuppositional apologetics.

Now that I actually have a child I'm finding that some secular advocacy groups either are actively not child friendly, or they are passively so (by inaction or just not thinking things through).



Attention Exmormon Foundation: humans have children. Having a "strict no child policy" is discriminatory.

Attention Atheists of Utah: voting for your leaders at a party which isn't child-friendly, that's also not good.

Perhaps we need a "family oriented" atheist or freethinker group in Utah.

Also more thoughts on Eric Hovind & Sye Ten Bruggencate. They essentially tell us: "We don't do Bible study with people who don't believe in the Bible." And they're also very keen to tell other people to shut up. Reference one (42:19 to 44:00 and 1:22:47), and two (35:49 to the end).

Ok, well, in response we could then well tell you: We won't chat about science & evolution with you, so long as you deny science, reasonable evidence and facts, and evolution.

Regarding the gotcha interviews Eric & Sye have conducted with apparently joint-toking college students: Yes, Eric & Sye, you may be able to get them to say "yeah, I don't know anything. You're so right." But once again you're not really being honest with your approach. What else is new.

More info:
Eric Hovind & Sye Ten Bruggencate. Kiss Jesus's Ass or Go to Hell. Presuppositionalism.
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/07/eric-hovind-sye-ten-bruggencate-kiss.html

Thursday, July 4, 2013

Eric Hovind & Sye Ten Bruggencate. Kiss Jesus's Ass or Go to Hell. Presuppositionalism.

In my view Eric Hovind & Sye Ten Bruggencate say to us: Kiss Jesus's Ass or Go to Hell - more on presuppositionalism and Calvinist apologetics - July 1st, 2nd and 3rd, 2013 commentary and opinion.



Index to segments:
0:00 - July 1 - First commentary on presuppositional apologetics, word games, verbal bullying, and intellectual dishonesty.
10:23 - July 1 continuing
35:44 - July 3 - how to not pay taxes - info courtesy of an educational video found by Kent Hovind: don't use your social security card, renounce your citizenship, and consider yourself to the the prime interpreter of law in your life, above judges, legislatures, and executives. It's just God and You baby - everything else be damned.

More info on kissing Jesus's ass:
http://nowscape.com/atheism/hanks_ass.htm

My own blog:
jonathanshome.blogspot.com

older pages on religion:
http://corvus.freeshell.org/corvus_corax/two/life_path/life_path.htm

Is Church Harmful? | Dave Silverman, Eric Hovind, Sye Ten Bruggencate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By3ijuxkxDg

The MSS - 15 April 2012 - Part 1 - Presuppositionalism with Eric Hovind and Sye Bruggencate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T06j5SApekk&list=PL0E69AD63A0B419A2

Presuppositionalism is like a special turing test designed by dishonest people to see if they can decide if they will answer any questions at all. You'll always fail - if you're not a fundie yourself. So, that's where the conversation ends with them. So be it. We've got other people to talk to.

More on Calvinist apologetics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presuppositional_apologetics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinist#Scripture

Down the rabbit hole - a talk with Sye Ten Bruggencate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmIEZsrP1HE

Sye Ten Bruggencate Gets His Ass Handed to Him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZYFrMF1L4E

More on Eric's father Kent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq_fGBMzsYI
tax evasion and prison
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind#Sentencing.2C_appeals.2C_and_imprisonment_.282007.E2.80.93current.29

Kent Hovind - County Jail Telephone Calls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBOfqyenPDc

Kent Hovind is Crazy #1: Taxes, the IRS, and Obeying Laws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkbIORWS5I&list=PLDBFCA254B5D2BCB4

presupposition Fail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lou6bx16w

Exposing Sye Ten Bruggencate - Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ0gu0nP7DU

The core Presuppositional argument debunked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2PRzgEVUTU

Presuppositional Fizzing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9FaCdc4uLw

Philip Gregory vs Eric Hovind Debate: Does God Exist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRoT2Qp5mS0

Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence
http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

Is Justified True Belief Knowledge?
http://www.ditext.com/gettier/gettier.html

Funny Dutch Person - TMM debunking Eric Hovind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T4MKJeyVe4

Eric & Sye essentially tell us: "...My imaginary friend told me so. Don't believe me? Then go to hell." But hell to an atheist is having to listen to them in the first place. What's heaven for an atheist? A science lecture. An art museum. A good hike in the mountains. Life. Love. Moving forward.