Showing posts with label gay. Show all posts
Showing posts with label gay. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 7, 2020

Faggyfag Origins: Mostly Bad Memes Instead of Bad Genes. Postmodernism versus the truth.

Faggyfag Origins: Mostly Bad Memes Instead of Bad Genes. Postmodernism versus the truth.


video link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/w47CTOHVgLJc/

Sexual inversion (homosexualisty AKA faggyfagism) results from the Spray of evolution. A side effect. Faggyfagism is not selected by evolution. It can't be.

The word sex only means activities with one's sexual organs which are directly inherently reproductive. Other activities, are just wankery. And wankery isn't selected for by evolution.

Postmoderist lies undergird the Stonewall LGBTQPZ project.

The spray of evolution is aiming torward reproduction. Faggyfagism is simply side-spray. But a main driver of people into the dead end death cult of Stonewall, are postmodernist lies. Bad memes, instead of bad genes.

Choose live, instead of the death cult lies of the cultural & political left.

Bruce Bagemihl, lgbt, lgbtqpz, evolution, stonewall, sex, faggyfag, postmodernism, tranny, gay, fag, life, choose life, atheists of utah

6-11 & 6-13, 2020

Saturday, October 5, 2019

The Youtube Purge Hits Jonny: Fighting the Leftist Death Cult, and Choosing life instead.

The Youtube Purge Hits Jonny: Fighting the Leftist Death Cult, and Choosing life instead.

Youtube AKA Google, a piece of shit regressive company, banned the vid which is part of this 2015 post:

https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/07/lives-and-families-are-destroyed-by.html

My channel on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/chinadreams888
My new channel on bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/QBbeSiWT3eAM/
My minds feed: https://www.minds.com/jhigbee/
My twitter feed: https://twitter.com/jhigbee2020 - backup in case primary gets shitcanned: https://twitter.com/jhigbee2021
Gab feed: https://gab.com/jhigbee
(aka: You ain't stoppin' me be'atch!!!)

The vid they banned, now on the venerable site BitChute:


Copy of censorship notification email is below. Their assertions are absurd, libelous, and slanderous. I want to fucking, SAVE LIVES (!!!) by not having people drawn into the bastard religion secular cult which is, All The Letters of Stonewall! L G B T, oh and P and Z. One letter after another, one reason after another, to not have kids, or to fuck up the lives of children you happen to have had before being sucked in.




Additional related screen clips:


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Censorship shall result in amplification, duplication, and increased visibility.

Operation Clambake, Fighting SJW Edition is in operation.

Sincerely,

Jonathan


Tuesday, April 17, 2018

Tranny Freaks, Stonewall SJW Faggyfags, Feminazis, and bearded Islamic theocrats want you censored on Twitter and Facebook

Tranny Freaks, Stonewall SJW Faggyfags, Feminazis, and bearded Islamic theocrats want you censored on Twitter and Facebook.



A badge of honor. Banned from Twitter for 12 hours in response to posts I made on March 27, 2018.

The regressive left. The totalitarian left. The abuse enabling left.

A gold star onto the forehead of whomever is the very best at not having children.

Enabling and protecting life-destroying choices. Twitter. Facebook.

Thus: Operation Clambake Stonewall-SJW edition, continues. A multiplication and amplification shall take place.

Censored post on Twitter:

@navyhato @MGTOWBliss
@lads_alliance
@holybibletoday @Partisangirl @facebook Facebook protects Stonewall faggyfag SJWs (incl. tranny freaks), feminazis, and bearded Islamic theocrats. https://t.co/jgJ0o3SjMk

[link above goes to my blog page: Facebook Censorship: Gender Dysphoria and Faisal Saeed Al Mutar. The Authoritarian Left. http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2018/03/facebook-censorship-gender-dysphoria.html ]

Twitter’s messages:

Violating our rules against hateful conduct.
You may not promote violence against, threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease.

As a result, we’ve temporarily limited some of your account features. While in this state, you can still browse Twitter, but you’re limited to only sending Direct Messages to your followers –– no Tweets, Retweets, follows, or likes. Learn more. Your account will be restored to full functionality in: 12 hours and 0 minutes.

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I was on there with a pseudonym. There’s more where that came from.

As for FB the fight continues here also. San Fran freakazoids.

And I say this as a guy who’s seen lives destroyed in my own family via the abusive permissiveness of the cultural left. Real lives, real families, destroyed.

Friday, February 2, 2018

Libertarian Atheists are often just abusively permissive leftist hippies

Libertarian Atheists, are usually abusively permissive Leftist Hippies.

Case in point:

In response to the post quoted below, 40 or so rather negative responses came back including one death threat against the original poster. After receiving the death threat, the original poster added a long comment in reply, after which the group admins booted the original poster.

The group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/LibertarianAtheist/ - AKA Libertarian Atheists.

These people, self-described libertarian atheists, have no concept of what human nature is, and zero respect for our evolutionary heritage.

In the follow post "NIP" means non-interference principle, something self described libertarians claim to believe in.


------------ quote begins original post in the Libertarian Atheist group:

Every time I hear Joe Rogan I am inclined to say to him: “you’re a moron. Pot does rot your brain. Also ‘letting people live their lives’ doesn’t take into account how people can be sucked into de facto (secular) cults. And there is a difference between government mandates and just doing social shaming for at least some destructive behaviors - although I’m not pro pot legalization nor for allowing non-reproductive outliers to suck kids into their unnatural-for-the-children ‘relationships.’”

I guess I’m a classic liberal too, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to ignore observed facts or what a given redpill might reveal, nor ignore how evolution works and our evolved natures.

The following is a list of my current views which shall probably trigger leftist-hippie libertarians, and so what:

1. Sexual organs are for making babies.

2. Humans are a sexually dimorphic species. Two genders period, and unchangeable.

3. Gayness appears to be largely a forced chosen outlier state, for most people who self identify as such.

Yes there’s gay non-human animals, but this is solely because the force of evolution on this front produces a certain percentage of non-reproductive outliers.

Thus to any extent that their are actually natural born human gays (as opposed to victims sucked into a de facto nihilistic death cult), they are >not< selected for. Rather they, are simply mistakes generated by the machinery and force regarding how evolution works.

4. We should imo salute valiant people like Doug Mainwaring who realize children should and must come first.

5. Climate Change Hysteria has zero connection with real and true and honest science.

6. Religions couch evolved traits and morals.

7. Christianity is superior to Islam and Judaism. Islam greatly and abusively amplifies out-group morality.

8. Christianity laid the foundation for a Reformation and Enlightenment. Men on the moon. America. Bringing humanity out of the largely Islam caused Dark Ages.

9. Overpopulation is a myth created by anti human nihilists.

10. If fat shaming works then why not gay and trans and bi shaming.

11. Margaret Sanger was a horrible racist eugenicist.

12. Race and IQ are inseparably linked.

13. The Democrat party was and still is about slavery.

14. Pot does rot your brain. And who pays for rehab and the impacts resulting from damaged and hijacked brains? Me via tax money.

15. Trump is a wonderful and highly useful president.

Denialist hippie triggering concluded.

------------end of quote.

After receiving 40 or so negative type replies, including one death threat from a group member, the following addendum was posted. This addendum comment resulted in the original poster being banned from "Libertarian Atheists."

Not so libertarian. Mostly abusively permissive leftist (GD) hippies.

------------ quote begins of comment posted after receive 40 negative replies including one death threat, from so-called "libertarian" atheists, a comment which then resulted in a ban from the group:

There's no such thing as a non-interference principle in a social animal.

Joe Rogan, and his dittoheaded followers frequently resort to the use of loud expletives as a means of conveying supposed arguments. The louder the expletive is spoken (or typed in capitals), the stronger the argument is supposed to be.

Yes it's possible to assess what a group is like by their responses to a given argument pr set or arguments & points. The tone of their responses.

In the above list so far, I see one death threat. How's that for your gd interference principle.

Now, as for a reasoned argument, which I don't think you're able to process really, is as follows:

Humans tend to gather in groups and draw up rules. You know, rules again: murder, rape, cheating. Stuff like that. There's also rules of war, for when another tribe attacks yours. I don't "love" Trump, but I agree with Milo he has damn high utilitarian value, and I also agree with Milo that Trump was the best de-facto librarian on the ballot.

Leftists (including leftist libertarians) force their will onto me and mine all the time.

At >two< government-run local art museums, they have mandatory "gender neutral" restrooms where the mentally-ill gender-dysphoric memetic-children-of-neomarxist-postmodernism men, get to spy on women & girls in the restrooms there.

Gays, force their will onto others all the time, at cake shops, at the adoption center, and on and on. They seek to use the force of law, of the State, to impose their will.

Potheads and other druggies damage their brains. They can end of jobless and on rehab. Who pays for their rehab? And who pays for how pothead parents basically F up the lives of their kids via having easy access to a brain hijacking chemical?

So, who exactly is forcing whom on these fronts?

The gender dysphoric and their leftist enablers, are forcing me.

The gays, are forcing me.

The potheads and other druggies, are forcing me.

The neomarxist postmodernists, are forcing me.

So, why exactly should I give a shit? This was asked more than once. Why would I give one blooding fucking rats ass, what someone else does with "their body." Why? Why? Why?

Because, dumb-S (yes I'll now resort ot the use of exlitives myself, well after one death threat in this thread so far), humans are social animals. Because what you do, affects me. What you do, affects your family. And if you're pregnant, what you do, affects someone who isn't you - the baby inside.

NIP my ass.

As social animals humans have a tendency to make up group rules which help discourage destructive dead end behaviors. So be. Yes not everything is equal. Yes there's a balance between 100% freedom and responsibility. In fact we cannot have freedom without responsibility - something your average pothead lib has mostly forgot. "And don't ask me to pay for your rehab either" - I'd say to them.

For you, yes you, "libertarian" means the freedom to be left alone to do your shit. Smoke pot. Do some bitcoining. More pot. More bitcoining. Add some pot. Joe Rogan libertarianism I guess. Not mine really.

Oh my god, what a mess:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
"Left-libertarianism encompasses those libertarian beliefs that claim the Earth's natural resources belong to everyone in an egalitarian manner, either unowned or owned collectively..."

Response: Earth's natural resources belong to everyone? F-ing Communism!

"Right-libertarianism developed in the United States in the mid-20th century and is the most popular conception of libertarianism in that region. It is commonly referred to as a continuation or radicalization of classical liberalism. Right-libertarians value the social institutions that enforce conditions of capitalism, while rejecting institutions that function in opposition to these institutions."

Response: Ok classical libertalism advocacy, and pro-capitalism.

But how does being pro-capitalism mean you get to kill a baby inside your womb, or that you get to smoke pot & f-up your life (next stop: rehab & getting my tax money - but what of the sacred NIP?), and the lives of your family (NIP gone, again)? How does being pro-capitalism mean you get to adopt a child into your unnatural-for-the-children outlier (gay or trans) relationship?

Oh yes my views are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Victorian.

Hey I likes me some tits and ass as much as the next red blooded American male. But tits and asses are for making kids, ok?

Human nature. Human evolution. What helps humanity thrive best.

Yes I admit and agree that the American project is the best way devised thus far. And if democracy can only be maintained when a general population has an IQ above a certain level, then your dreams of a utopian "libertarian" society look even >more< far off and more like a pipe dream.

Yes of course the State has grown too big.

But it's fascinating (and f-ing annoying) to me that ALL THESE PEOPLE who want to be left alone to do their thang, don't wish to leave me and mine alone.

Gender neutral restrooms where lookiloo men get to spy on women & girls.

Babies killed en masse by Margaret Sanger's abattoir.

Brains damaged and families destroyed by all those drugs which are just, by F, none of my business.

None of my business. None of my business. Don't f-up my party bro!

Leftist hippies indeed. And yes I'm generally for classical liberalism. Thus as you prepare to press the boot button, keep that in mind.

As for the rest, since the thread did include one death threat from one oh-so-kind NIP-loving lib, I'll say this: F U.

------------ end of quote of comment which resulted in a ban from a libertarian atheists group.

Many self described libertarians aren't libertarian at all. Rather, they're just abusive morons who mostly want to force you, and everyone else, to pay for their excesses and abuse.

Friday, September 1, 2017

UMFA and UMOCA unsafe for women and girls

Video commentary:




The Utah Museum of Fine Arts (UMFA) and Utah Museum of Contemporary Art (UMOCA) are unsafe places for women and girls. The cancer of neomarxist postmodernism has visited both government-owned museums.

If you're a normal human who isn't a forced abused abusive outliter, these government-owned places are actively disenfranchising you and yours. Discrimination, against the normal. Discrimination, against the sane. Risky unsafe environments for women, girls, and families.

More info:

Regarding the Utah Museum of Fine Arts:
'Utah Museum of Fine Arts: Unsafe for Women and Girls! UMFA Unsafe!'
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/08/utah-museum-of-fine-arts-unsafe-for.html

Regarding the Utah Museum of Contemporary Art:
'Ultra-leftists force women to use the men's restroom.'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2016/05/utah-first-opposites-attract-in-shadow.html

Wednesday, August 30, 2017

Utah Museum of Fine Arts: Unsafe for Women and Girls! UMFA Unsafe!


Proof that postmodernist fools and morons are present:

Video commentary in response:

link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0OSXtiO6eU
Denialist fools and abusive morons, morons who deny 1.2 billion years of evolutionary history and basic evolved human nature.

My response, to the museum - which they later censored on their Facebook page.
The cancer of postmodernism visits UMFA.

Risky, pro-rape culture, allowing men into the women's restrooms.

Human gender is binary.

Your sign is a lie.

Fools and denialist morons 'acknowledge' otherwise.

And having the State of Utah make such claims via the University of Utah is outrageous.

I don't want my tax money going to support neomarxist postmodern lies.
Their response to me:
Jonathan, thanks for coming to the UMFA today. We hope you felt welcome. It's important to us that all of our visitors feel welcome, no matter their age, ability, knowledge of art, background, race, sexual preference, or gender identity. Thanks for sharing this sign—we're proud of it.
My follow up to them in response:
Being proud of shoving neomarxist postmodern cult ideology down the throats of all visitors, is not a good thing.

Women in the women's restrooms, don't have a choice w/this policy which is an affront to 1.2 billion years of evolutionary history and basic human biology.

The University of Utah and therefore the State of Utah, cannot declare by fiat utter lies about human nature, human evolution, and basic biological facts.

Humans are a gender binary species, period. And men, any men, do not belong in the women's restrooms.

A risky atmosphere, for women and girls.

Pro true rape culture.

If you must have a room for the gender dysphoric, make it single tenant.

Your post is a middle finger to all sane people within Utah.

No tax money to support the neomarxist postmodernist cult.
Copy of an email I've sent to my elected state representatives:
It's not up to an art museum, an art department, art graduates, the University of Utah, or the State of Utah to unilaterally decide they can alter biological & evolutionary facts, unilaterally change human nature, and reject 1.2 billion years of history. On a main Utah Museum of Fine Arts (UMFA) restroom they have a sign which states the following:

"While building code currently requires gender binary signs on the doors, the UMFA acknowledges that gender is not binary. Please use the restroom that feels most comfortable to you."

The claim that human gender is not binary is an absurd, abusive, and factually incorrect claim.

There is a flavor of neomarxism called social constructivist postmodernism, an ultra leftist ideology which is highly abusive.

I agree with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Gad Saad that postmodernism is a denialist cult of the left with roots in basic neomarxism.

1.2 billion years of evolutionary history, and basic facts of human nature, versus absurd governmental declarations by the State that gender is not binary.

The postmodern ideology of the social justice warrior (SJW), versus facts and reason.

Yes the cultural left does deny science and history and evolution and facts about human nature and human biology.

The cancer of postmodernism visits UMFA, the University of Utah, and the State of Utah.

Risky pro-rape culture: allowing men into the women's restrooms.

Human gender is binary.

Their sign is a lie.

Having the State of Utah make such claims via the University of Utah is outrageous.

I don't want my tax money going to support neomarxist postmodern lies.

Women in the women's restrooms, don't have a choice with this policy which is an affront to the integrity and safety of women and girls, and also to our very key nature as humans.

The University of Utah and therefore the State of Utah, cannot declare by fiat utter lies about human nature, human evolution, and basic biological facts.

Humans are a gender binary species, period. And men, any men, do not belong in the women's restrooms.

A risky atmosphere, for women and girls.

Pro true rape culture.

If they must have a room for the gender dysphoric, make it single tenant.

The UMFA sign in question is a middle finger to all sane people within Utah. And yes this is about a cultural war, in this case a battle between anti-science anti-reason virtue-signaling SJW leftists, and women and girls who deserve better.

What choice are women and girls given to in this case to not have men in their restrooms? None.

Truly-female children and truly-female adults deserve better, from the UMFA, the University of Utah, and the State of Utah.

Again it's not the place of art graduates, an art department, the University of Utah, or the State of Utah, to deny 1.2 billion years of our own evolutionary history and basic human nature.

Big brains can produce the mental illness of gender dysphoria. That doesn't mean we cease being a gender binary species.

Gender is binary in the human animal.

Please have the referenced sign removed at the State of Utah University of Utah museum known as the Utah Museum of Fine Arts.
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Description of new Facebook page created about this issue, created primarily because the UMFA has blocked me from posting comments on their facebook page in violation of the First Amendment:
The Utah Museum of Fine Arts is an unsafe environment for women and girls.

If you're a female you have ZERO CHOICE regarding whether men can spy on you while you use the restroom at UMFA. Zero, choice.

Also the UMFA claims that humans are not gender binary, which is historically, evolutionarily, and factually absurd. Humans are a sexually dimorphic species period.

What's really at play here is the cancer of neomarxist postmodernism and social justice warriorism (SJWism) creating an atmosphere where UMFA managers feed they must virtue signal. But their virtue signally is not only absurd it's also abusive.

1.2 billion years of evolutionary history and facts about human nature, versus postmodernist utter lies and abuse.

The UMFA is actively censoring posts about this topic on their own page, in violation of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution - the Redress of Grievances. UMFA is a public museum and is part of the State of Utah.
Related links:
'Lives and families are destroyed by Tranny and Gay acceptance and promotion - LGBT abusive outliers are not equal'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/07/lives-and-families-are-destroyed-by.html

Humans are a sexually dimorphic species, by Dr. Gad Saad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeYBG66YEs4

More from Dr. Saad: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201212/sex-specific-toy-preferences-learned-or-innate

'Jordan Peterson - Equality Amplifies Gender Differences'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUxY_5-N81Q

More from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYtzFBI-INU

'Transgenderism Has No Basis in Science or Law'
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2016/01/16143/

'National Geographic's "Gender Revolution": Bad Argument and Biased Ideology'
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2017/01/18491/

An unfortunately-gender-dysphoric person (Blaire White) speaks about how gender is not a social construct:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9WqfBDjRF8

Ben Shapiro on the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtuqmThPE5c

Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Utah-Museum-of-Fine-Arts-is-Unsafe-For-Women-and-Girls-519332035083387/



Wednesday, August 23, 2017

Banned from a conservative atheists facebook group: conservatives who aren't conservative.

Today I was banned from a facebook group called Conservative Atheistshttps://www.facebook.com/groups/48625003215/

I was banned for posting the following comment in response to a post. The original post asked if 'LGBTs' had a place in conservatism. I posted my response and then was banned within about 14 hours. Here's a clip of the post to which I was responding...

Conservatism is conservatism.

----- quote begins of banned post

Space or safe space?

Socially conservative would mean conserving and valuing our 1.2 billon year evolved morality.

Are you inclined to make one of these (see the small human animal pictured) au naturel or not? If not, you are an outlier, either a forced victim of abusive postmodernism, or a much less common DNA type.

T - the gender dysphoric exist for sure. May they find recovery via mental health counseling.

L - please loose weight and try to be more attractive. You're cheating yourself and others.

G - most are abuse victims and forced outliers.

B - abusive denialist cheaters. Choose to be a non-outlier if you can.

---- end of quote

Wolves in the hen house apparently, or at the very least touchy outliers who don't like the truth of long standing biological history and evolution.

Apparently the LGBTPZ fiscal conservatives will not tolerate social conservatives who question their denialist liberal doctrines.

Gays are victims of postmodernism.

When I see people jumping off a cliff, yes that offends my sensibilities

Socially conservative atheists exist. Abusively permissive, denialist, pot smoking libertarians who are not socially conservative can't tolerate their presence though.

1.2 billion years of evolutionary history is so inconvenient.

Our evolved morality is not subjective. Whereas abusive neomarxist postmodernism is.

The censoring non-conservative admins of a 'Conservative Atheists' group on facebook:


There are alternate groups on facebook with similar names.

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/conservative%2Batheists/keywords_groups

Thus my own banning has not blocked me completely on there. But it's worth noting that fiscal conservatives who see themselves as 'quintisentially' conservative, really aren't.

A true conservative would be both socially and fiscally conservative.

Conserve, what's good about 1.2 billion years of evolved human history. The valuing of family. The valuing of life. Yes the valuing of inherent reproduction. And yes, devaluing abusive non-reproductive outliers. Working to help people live happy lives, through education and advocacy. Advocacy for the valuing of highly useful and good evolved human values.

Related thoughts:

'Lives and families are destroyed by Tranny and Gay acceptance and promotion - LGBT abusive outliers are not equal'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/07/lives-and-families-are-destroyed-by.html

'Where does social conservatism come from? From human nature.'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/11/where-does-social-conservatism-come.html

Friday, May 27, 2016

Ultra-leftists force women to use the men's restroom at UMOCA


Utah first? Opposites attract? In the shadow of the Temple the Utah Museum of Contemporary Art forces women to use the men's - since both restrooms are now man-welcome.

Not just femmy men. Not just Bruce Jenner deranged gender dysphoric  messed up men. All men - can use both restrooms at UMOCA, and so women have no choice but to watch men use the restroom and to allow easy access to their restroom activities.

Ultra-right wing Mormons spawn and attract ultra-left wing abusively permissive moronic dogmatic Stonewall-agenda leftist fascists.

Strange but true. Welcome to Salt Lake City. The shadow of Stonewall is higher than the shadow of the Mormon Temple. Is that a good thing?

Ask a socially conservative atheist woman from rural China with zero connection to the Bible and Book of Mormon: It's a genuinely dangerous and stupid and abusive idea to have mandatorily all-gender and all-outlier crazy dysphoric fool welcoming restrooms.

I love rebellious cutting edge art. I love pissing off Puritans and ultra-leftists alike.

But look: outliers exist. Dangerous predatory men exist. Women and girls need protection from such men, period.

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August 2017 addendum, video commentary:

Friday, February 19, 2016

Lies present in conservative religion force children into the abusive arms of the denialist myopic left.


Frankly, the thing which hurts conservatism are the pervasive and *required* lies present within religions like Mormonism and Evangelical Christianity.

Are you a pro-family & pro-life conservative?

Then don't lie to your children about a mystical god, or a about a prophet who's rear end all are required in your religion to kiss, or a non-existent Savior who also likes rear-end kissing (of his own).

By lying to your children, and by forcing them to lie (oh, and by too much shaming regarding such issues as masturbation (!)), you will force them to respond ping pong style.

Ultra-right as a chump in your religion, and THEN ultra-left!

The exact opposite of what you were hoping for.

It's quite true that the left (including the hippie & communist left) deals with the new technology of birth control with the same care & consideration as nuclear bombs were dealt with back in the '50s - ask all the cancer-ridden 'down winders' who were exposed to radiation during that time.

It's quite true that birth control & easy birth-control-connected-abortion have given humans the false impression that sex is for anything BUT reproduction, which it is not. Sex only exists in an inherently reproductive context, period.

So, Mr. & Mrs. conservative religionist, I can see why you're wary of having your children exposed to the vagaries of leftist relativism, extreme naivety, and myopia.

But you aren't helping things via lying to them about your imaginary god, nor about how everyone MUST suck up to your prophet or to your Savior, or else.

The Atheist Movement needs more laxative. Room should and must be made for social & political conservatism.

Exactly what connection does rural China & rural India have to do with the Bible or the Quoran or the Book of Mormon? Zero. So they are essentially a de facto control experiment, and can be accurately seem as an example for your average leftist atheist / "humanist."

Is "religion" the root cause of social conservatism, or is it human nature & evolution? Will life be a f-ing panacea if we can all just live like Bonobos, and let it all hang out? No. Lives are destroyed via such assumptions. We are NOT bonobos.


Let children be raised by two non-inherently-reproductive outlier-type females or males? It matters not, right?

Being "childfree" helps you be the most "true" YOU there is, right?

Don't have children because people in third world countries have too many, but for some reason they don't get enough peas in their diet so you still need to have as many peas in yours as you can in response, right?

Let strangers raise your children while you show that your EQUAL EQUAL EQUAL in all ways to men, right?

These are a few key tenants of current denialist leftistism. Denial of human nature. Denial of human history, evolutionary history, and sexual history.

And when you essentially force your own children out of your house and out of your religion, by a.) forcing your children to believe lies and maintain-as-true key lies, and b.) engaging in far too much (!) sexual shaming & too much shaming & control on other fronts, you will force them right into the hands of abusive leftist relativist denialist moron culture. The exact opposite of your otherwise reasonable goals for them.

So, how to move forward?

Some degree of shame regarding sex is warrantied, the type that helps people avoid lethal STDs for example, but not the type which says that masturbation is evil! Why mention the latter, because f-tard leaders in religions like Mormonism do.

Teach your children about the >fact< of evolution, but also teach them that religion & culture *evolved also and simultaneously* to help us *avoid* destructive behaviors!

Yes we should wake up about the non-existence of all gods and the facts of evolution by natural selection, but we should also be woken up to the FULL facts, not the partial denialist relativist "facts" which are generated solely from the ultra-left side.

Religion is a fully natural phenomenon as is culture.

Yes humans have fully evolved destructive & outlier proclivities which can destroy. Prohibition-elements of various types *also* evolved to counter destructive impulses.

Like it or not that's how things have been set up in us, not by some god, but rather by fully natural evolution by natural selection.

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Where does social conservatism come from? From human nature.
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/11/where-does-social-conservatism-come.html

Lives and families are destroyed by Tranny and Gay acceptance and promotion - LGBT abusive outliers are not equal
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/07/lives-and-families-are-destroyed-by.html

The Atheist Movement needs move laxative - Making room for social & political conservatives!
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-atheist-movement-needs-move.html

Conservative Naturalism: Don't put your willie in the deadly destructive glory hole of the left. You might get both an STD and an MTD
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/conservative-naturalism-dont-put-your.html

Conservative Naturalism: Culture War General Commentary - 5-22-2014
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/conservative-naturalism-culture-war.html

Embracing true honest naturalism: Marriage is about children
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/embracing-true-honest-naturalism.html

More on the ping pong game - hard facts for the Mormon & Catholic churches:
Are Mormonism & Catholicism homosexual & pedophile generators?
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/are-mormonism-catholicism-homosexual_24.html

The talk I gave at my mother's funeral - February 2010
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2010/12/funeral-talk-that-i-gave-in-february.html

Tuesday, November 24, 2015

Where does social conservatism come from? From human nature.

Leftists seek to censor, again and again and again. They demand you either fall in line with their views, or that you shut up.

Here's some of my recent reflections on the pressing issues of the day, posted in a place where deletion is less likely (originally posted on
Faisal Saeed Al Mutar's facebook page).
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OMG there is no such think as an unbiased journalist. Some bias is useful, and the more I look at things I see that a rightist bias is more reasonable.

Pro-family.

Pro-life, as in human life, as in survival.

Pro-Enlightenment, generally speaking, de facto (even if a given person claims they just 'hate' 'hate' 'hate' Darwin's findings, they can still be de facto pro-Enlightenment but what they say and do).

Pro-the-truth.

In the wake of Hebdo, exactly who on this planet published the cartoons? Who, exactly? Leftist media? "Main stream" media, which is de facto leftist? N-O.

As an ex-Mormon I can see the plight of ex-Muslims, fighting to be heard. People like Bosch Fawstin, who face death threats in response to their life work, and there's many others: Ayaan, Maryam; and that's not to mention the atheist bloggers who've been killed.

Where does the truth lie? In being honest and true to our evolutionary history. Embracing enlightenment & science, but not throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Daniel Dennett's dangerous idea is that religion is a natural phenomenon. That fact cuts several ways. Fully natural & useful & evolved human values exist w/in religion - values evolved to help us avoid destructive behaviors. But religions can and do go overboard: the hijab; controls on dating & marriage - Islam goes *way* too far in the negative & controlling direction.

In the 90s I thought Mormonism was the fruit of all evil, but now I see Islam as a far bigger problem.

And an an ex-religionist it's hard to admit that some shaming is useful, from a utilitarian perspective. Yes there's damn good reasons not to get an STD and leave your family with no parent, for example. Letting it all hang out has real world downsides.

Finding a balance between the crazies on all sides is hard work. The left is too permissive. The right is too uptight.

Freedom of speech comes from a limited slice of human heritage & experience (ref. Mark Steyn). Most people don't value it - which is one reason why it must be valued by those of us who were either born into or adopted into the Western heritage.

Who stands up for free speech? Not "the left," generally speaking. Who published & who was willing to show the cartoons? There is your answer - the camp we should go to & join.

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[In response to the above post a pro-gay-marriage person complained and stated that his gay "marriage" to his gay associate was an example of family values. I then drafted the following reply, a reply which resulted in a ban from FB for 24 hours. I don't think they liked my use of the tranny &
femin*zi terms. But it's apparently quite true that there are strong institutional barriers against speaking one's mind & speaking the truth. Honest observations and honest opinions. True diversity encompasses a diversity of opinion (!), just just a diversity of skin tone.]

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Control experiment: Visit human communities who're opposed to gay-advocacy & gay "marriage," communities which have zero connection to the Bible or the Quran. Ask what they think. Do their views have value? Where do their views come from?

Religion is a natural phenomenon as noted. Dismissing out of hand everything w/in religion simply because given values are couched w/in a religious context is wrong headed & foolish & unscientific and unhistorical.

Outliers exist. They are side effects of how evolution works, how sex gets set up in humans. Outliers are a side effect of selection, not a root cause for selection.

When the human animal can naturally produce children via outlier "sexual" activity, or via natural non-interventionary parthenogenesis, then outlier "sex" will no longer have an outlier status.

Gay people can be service oriented and they can help main-line non-outlier humans who can and do naturally reproduce. But outliers can also inappropriately assume that they should essentially steal away children into outlier culture.

Gay culture is no place for children. Gay men tend to not be faithful. Gay women don't have father-figures around at all.

Non-faithfulness is simply a way of life w/in gay culture. Also children have been hard coded (by evolution, by nature) to *need* to be raised in a household where a mother & father are present.

So re gayness: here's for contributors like Alan Turing, Stephen Fry, Douglas Murray, and so on. That's all fine and good. But I suggest not whitewashing problems with gay culture & so-called gay "marriage."

Yes gay people can hook up, but they cannot have true sex nor true & honest marriage. Why? Because sex only happens when two sexual animals engage in inherently reproductive activities with their sexual organs. Other activities with one's sexual organs are not, literally, and in any real meaningful scientific sense, sex. And as marriage has been a direct extension of inherently reproductive sex, AKA sex, there is only one type of true & honest & meaningful marriage.

It's not about civil rights. Outliers have every right to work to not be outliers. That's why I support secular groups like NARTH. My gay nephew certainly would benefit from association with such a group. He lives such a wastrel, petty, selfish, mostly meaningful life, it's amazing and sad. Seen this first hand. I also say how he & his friends readily accepted a convicted pedophile into their friend community after the pedo was released from prison.

Oh and then there was my gay (or "bi") uncle who died of AIDS: a victim of the abusively permissive glory hole culture of San Francisco, thereby leaving his straight normal family (AKA his family) with no father. My uncle was a victim of both the ultra-right and the ultra-left - a victim of the ping pong game that happens when people rebel in response to exposure to ultra-right religion.

Ultra-left religion is no "answer" to the cultural & religious right, nor is it a panacea.

In my infancy I drafted:
http://corvus.freeshell.org/corvus_corax/two/life_path/Mortal_Mormonism.htm
...a Mormon exist journal of a newbie ultra-leftist

Then when I grew up and tossed my ultra-leftist colored glasses I graduated to:
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/
...where I am willing to examine truth from all sides, and where I take w/a grain of salt the dogmatic claims of all sides.

Gay "marriage" is not about families, it's about a basic denial of human nature, a denial of 1.2 billion years of sexual history, and ~13.82 billion years of evolutionary history. Leftists deny human nature all the time even more than righties do. At least rightist culture can help one avoid deadly STDs, the "childfree" life, a dead end life, a wastrel, a life as a lesbian femin*zi, and so on.

I am happy to have the gay people (AKA biological outliers) who contribute to society, and who help those of us who *are* inclined to naturally reproduce. But please don't steal away our kids into your sometimes-abusive culture. Gay culture is no place for kids.

Related thoughts:

Lives and families are destroyed by Tranny and Gay acceptance and promotion - LGBT abusive outliers are not equal
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/07/lives-and-families-are-destroyed-by.html

Embracing true honest naturalism: Marriage is about children
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/embracing-true-honest-naturalism.html

https://www.facebook.com/Seculars-Against-Same-Sex-Marriage-293011477509961/

I'm Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage
by  Doug Mainwaring
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/03/9432/

From Jesse Bering: "...Even in societies where homosexuality was tolerated, such as in Ancient Greece, men tended to engage in pederasty with adolescent boys while maintaining wives and families at home..."

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/2011/08/01/the-end-of-gays-gay-marriage-and-the-decline-of-the-homosexual-population/

Report: Pedophilia more common among 'gays'
http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/

A journalist's second thoughts
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-10/gorman-second-thoughts/4809582

Children of gay "marriage" who're against gay adoption:
1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK64ajNt9QU
2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNrPJ42Xoo
3: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/lauretta-brown/adults-raised-gay-couples-speak-out-against-gay-marriage-federal-court

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/ten-arguments-from-social-science-against-same-sex-marriage

Geezus is not my savior, nor do I believe in Mohamed. But socially conservative atheists from rural China can serve as a control group and a counter to leftist relativism & leftist denialism.

In as much as gay culture produces people like Douglas Murray, I say let's have a million of them. The more neocons the better, yes that's true. But please let's have less gays like my gay nephew & less gays like my gay uncle, please.

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Related thoughts:

The Atheist Movement needs move laxative - Making room for social & political conservatives!
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-atheist-movement-needs-move.html

Tuesday, July 28, 2015

Lives and families are destroyed by Tranny and Gay acceptance and promotion - LGBT abusive outliers are not equal


Tranny culture RUINS lives and families
LGBT outliers are not equal


 (YouTube banned this video four years after it was posted, so I put it on BitChute. Hey Google & Youtube: Fuck you.)

  


Youtube banned link:  Tranny culture RUINS lives and families - LGBT outliers are not equal

Start with 8 (children), as an ultra-hard-line Mormon family.

Later 3 get sucked into a man-hating crazy-woman-led cult. The 3 all change their last names to that of the cult leader (the Cropper cult of Logan, Utah). 1 of the 3 Cropper cult converts later decides he's gay, while still working at BYU.

More recently 1 of the 8 decides to "change" from a man to a woman (not a Cropper cult 3, but another of the 8), leaving his children homeless and a broken home.

1 commits suicide (also separate from the 3 Cropper cult ones - probably because of irritable bowel syndrome in part, and who knows why else).

What are the causes? Why all this chaos in an ultra-right ultra-hard-line Mormon family?

Here's some theories:

A. Too much cheap ground beef as a child, and too much rice and beans? Cheapy poor-person possibly-third-world style nutrition as children, for all 8.

B. Parents too strict ultra Mormon. Father very angry and sometimes violent. Mother extreme passive aggressive my way or the highway type person re being a strict Mormon.

C. Related past thoughts:

Are Mormonism & Catholicism homosexual & pedophile generators? | Connections between homosexuality & pedophilia
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/are-mormonism-catholicism-homosexual_24.html

D. An omnipresent abusive leftist permissive culture which claims "anything goes," when it doesn't?

Related thoughts:

Advice for Social Conservatives & Moderates, from a Family Values Atheist
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/advice-for-social-conservatives.html

Embracing true honest naturalism: Marriage is about children
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/embracing-true-honest-naturalism.html

E. Ultra-rightist cults can spawn new sub-cults. A woman named Cropper in Logan, Utah started.a sub-cult branched from ultra Mormonism. She hates men and does laying on of hands, and has visions where she tell her adherents that all men are evil.

Three of my brother's children were sucked into this strange sub-cult in Logan. They all changed their last names to Cropper, and they now have zero contact with my brother or anyone in my "normal" regular family.

F. Ultra-right religion can cause a worse abuse when a child or adult rebels and becomes a permissive relativist ultra leftist.

See item C for more details.

G. Memetic diseases of the left can at times be more abusive and destructive than those of the right.

Families and lives are destroyed by leftist meme sets.

H. To have all this chaos, my ultra extreme angry passive and non-passive aggressive (sometimes violent) brother and his wife have set up a meat grinder somehow. Many of their children have been fucked up and damaged by the "my way or the highway" type of upbringing.

But on the other hand permissive relativist liberalism is also a meat grinder.

In the past I had a gay uncle who turned his back on his straight family, and he died of AIDS as a result. He was a victim of both the extreme right and the extreme left.

http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/search/label/gay

So with the latest news that one nephew of mine just destroyed his family because he's chosen to "change" his sex: this man IS a fucking victim of moronic leftist culture which claims that whatever damn fool thing pops into your head should be acted upon.

A marriage and family, destroyed.

Two wonderful little girls, ages 4 and 1, out on the street.

Permissive gay and tranny accepting leftist culture IS to blame for this! But so are his  my way or the highway parents, AS IS anti-heathy-sex Mormonism.

Related thoughts:
Jesus wants me for an asshole: the song of LDS missionaries, bishops, and prophets
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/03/jesus-wants-me-for-asshole-song-of-lds.html

Open ended acceptance of all things ,LGBT results in the destruction of lives! Bruce Jenner for example is a moron who's also a victim of permissive leftistism.

My uncle who jumped from ultra conservative Manti, Utah style Mormonism  to San Francisco put your John Thomas in a glory hole liberalism was a fool and a victim of both the left and the right.

My longer standing pedophile-friend-accepting gay nephew is s victim of the anti-masturbation anti-positive sex Mormonism, AND permissive leftistism.

My newly transgender nephew and his children and his now destroyed family are victims of the meat grinder nature of his patents' ultra conservative strict angry violent Mormonism, and also of permissive relativist leftistism.

Lives are destroyed by ultra rightism and ultra leftistism. A ping pong game that grinds people down to dust.

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Additional:

'Where does social conservatism come from? From human nature.'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2015/11/where-does-social-conservatism-come.html

'Embracing true honest naturalism: Marriage is about children'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/embracing-true-honest-naturalism.html

'Banned from a conservative atheists facebook group: conservatives who aren't conservative.'
https://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2017/08/banned-from-conservative-atheists.html

Saturday, May 24, 2014

Are Mormonism & Catholicism homosexual & pedophile generators? | Connections between homosexuality & pedophilia

Adam Carolla makes a quick transition in his commentary, from gays to pedos.

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/19/adam_carolla_where_are_all_the_jewish_roofers

"I don’t even know who’s gay and who’s not gay nine times out of 10 — why do you even need to know? Your skin color and gender one can see, if one wanted to discriminate. In terms of sexual proclivities, I don’t know what someone’s into! You could work with someone who’s into kids — how would you know?"

Clearly not every gay is a pedo. But is the link nonexistent?

Item 10 at
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/08/family-values-atheism-questioning.html

Which links to more info
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/08/response-to-site-claims-attack-by-lds.html

Sickening and abhorrent to know that human nature allows for such trash as pedos to be produced. Defects that should be locked up for life. Why is such trash picked up and valued by at least some gays?

Not fun to talk about. Liberal heresy to think what I saw was not a one off - that the observation has significant relevance.

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Oh, and yes the Mormon Church does abuse kids.

http://web.archive.org/web/20131021180407/http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/sin_and_death_in_mormon_country.shtml

In my estimation there may well be deeper contributory expression-promotion synergistic links between Mormonism, gayness, pedos, and apology for pedos.

By comparison, the Catholic Church complains mightily about gayness, and they also have many pedo and/or gay priests.

Convicted pedophile who is friends with 5+ Salt Lake City area gays, and attendee at gay house parties and bars (saw first hand):

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695261750/Secret-shame-Predator-was-coach-Scout-chief.html

The truth sucks sometimes, but the non-truth sucks more.

Yes I imagine there's gays with more brain cells and morals. However sex with boyz (their spelling) is a common reference. Heard it first hand with my nephew and his friends many times.

I was the first leftbot chump my nephew came out to. In hindsight I wish I had referred him to other options than to hook up with gay culture.

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Are Mormonism and Catholicism homosexual & pedophile generation machines?

In part I believe they are. For similar & different reasons, and for reasons having to do with expected responses to rightist extremism: leftist extremism.

Those "recovering" from those religions can also become abused & abuse themselves as they go way too far over to the other side, Both "sides" of the same coin playing off each other. Fighting each other. Helping each other be more extreme and frankly denialist.

Who introduced Mormon children to the concept of homosexuality? Past Mormon Prophet Spencer Kimball & related cohorts. So Kimball, by his extremist actions of linking innocuous masturbation with dead-end homosexuality, did both abuse children by helping them fear masturbation, plus he first placed in the minds of children the "option" for being a homosexual - so that when the child rebels against the retrograde idea of shaming for masturbation, he may look to homosexuality as a sort of "refuge" from the abusive nature of Mormonism.

A thesis.

A theory.

An opinion.

But also an observation: as noted I have a gay nephew who I spent many years with going to parties. He "came out" to me first. I observed his actions first hand. I know how harsh his father was & strict & ultra Mormon.

"Rebelling" against the abusive ultra-conservatism of Mormonism, meant, for my nephew, becoming a petty ultra-gay sexual-dead-end narcissist - abused so much by both sides that he readily accepts a convicted pedophile into his friend circle.

Next, we have my supposedly-bi uncle from Manti, Utah. Again, in response to the abusive nature of Mormonism in Manti, he moves to San Francisco, gets AIDS, dies, and leaves his straight family with no father. A multi-year process admittedly. But still this was the net result.

Then, we have groups like Atheists of Utah, who see themselves as the "answer" to Mormonism. Their "answer" is gayness, whosale embracing of the "gay agenda." No questions. No dissent. No other ideas. No other concepts. No other politics than ultra-left. No other thoughts allowed in their group. Just the most extreme leftist agenda, period. Their "answer" to Mormonism is: homosexuality.

So, a huge homosexual generation machine: Mormonism, and respondents to Mormonism. Linked together & a de facto gay and gay-agenda-apologist generator.

As for Catholicism, they also help generate more homosexuals and pedophiles by having forced celibacy of their priests. Their doctrines preach great fear about homosexuality. Their leaders talk about this again & again. So in Catholic households they are constantly telling their children about gayness. And the priests are often just a bunch of fucking pedophiles. So, in such an environment, what do you think will be the result?

When children rebel, they *may* more easily become gay, or a pedo, or both - and thus be tarred by the abusive stance of Catholicism on sexual issues. The first answer for Catholicism is to require all their priests to be married, to a woman. And secondly to allow women priests, women who are married to men.

For Mormonism, they should stop distributing the abusive book Miracle of Forgiveness. Stop interviewing children & adults about masturbation, and about sex before marriage. Tell children that masturbation is ok. Trying to wait to have sex in marriage is ok - but sometimes having sex with a person you'll most likely marry is ok too. Plus tell them that oral sex is ok - tell that especially to the adults (as oral sex was banned in Mormonism in the past).

Sex sex sex. When you try to press it down too much, you may just end up having a gay-person generation machine.

Now, I have to keep saying this I know. I realize there are service oriented gay people who are more level headed. More ethical. More moral. Less petty.

However, there are huge problems with "gay culture." Direct links to pedophilia which are not easy to dismiss. Not every gay person is such a "link," but the de facto links are there, at the parties, at the bars, on the Internet, and so on.

How to move forward? With honesty. Honesty about abuse on the right and the left. Honesty about how harshness on the right can well lead to a petty destructive narcissistic culture on the left in response. Playing off each other.

There are "answers" to be found on both sides, left & right. What answers come from the left? To not shame children too much for things like masturbation. To not be too controlling. To have systems in place which provide a social safety net for people. To help keep "cheats" in control, rich sociopathic cheats who would screw everyone over if it weren't for proper regulation.

The "answers" to be found on the right are that shaming for some forms of sexual expression does help protect us, from AIDS, from petty narcissism, from dead end tail chasing, and so on. That normal family life, with a mommy, and a daddy, and children, is the ideal center for humanity, it has been, it is, and it must be the center. When a male-female parent with child structure is not the center, the right is "right" to say that we're about to go right off the fucking rails.

As for gayness, gays have a right to jobs, apartments, and to not be harassed per se for having sex with other gays. But, on the other hand, children have a right to a mommy and daddy (!), including adopted children!

In my view both single women, and lesbians, should be barred from sperm bank use, period. A legal framework should be put into place to ensure that artificially facilitiated reproduction more closely mirrors what happens with more natural.

It's dangerous to fuck with how 13.8 billion years of evolution have set up. Humans are not blank slates (ref. Steven Pinker). We have a long sexual, not asexual, not homosexual, just sexual history.

Sex. The left fear it as much as the right. Don't be afraid of sex. Celebrate it. It's where life comes from! It helps you be wisely selfish. It helps you not to live a petty, stunted, dead end life - if you allow it to work normally. If you honor it's history.

A man.

A woman.

Babies.

Life!

Children may need a mommy and a daddy - even adopted children.

There is no such thing as "gay marriage" because two gay people cannot make babies, naturally with each other, period.

Only naturally sexually reproducing couples (ie: male & female couples) should have access to children.
Crazy defective destructive dangerous outlier men who're attracted to children should be locked up for life

Not everything is equal: gay's cannot produce babies naturally with each other, men with men, and women with women. Cannot, naturally, via the method which came from 1.2 billion years of evolutionary sexual history.
Yes there are service oriented gays who're more moral. But, things aren't so cut and dry as to assume that gay culture is a healthy panacea "answer" to right wing religion. It ain't.

Daniel Dennett's dangerous idea: Religion is a natural phenomenon. This fact cuts both ways. Fully natural, normal, valuable, and useful human morality can and does exist within religious frameworks. A damn hard thing for a liberal to admit! In fact many liberals are in active denial.

Sometimes the nuttypots DO know something. Fuck. That's a damn fucking hard thing for an ex-Mormon, or liberal, to admit. But most liberals are so naive and victims of fearful politically correct culture, they don't dare investigate whether their own presuppositions are flawed or not.

Is the "right" right, sometimes? Yes. Often they go way too far with their responses. AND their responses can push people right over the edge, right into the destructive cultures the right is so fearful of. That's the damn sucky thing about the whole situation (from the perspective of your average PC liberal who would prefer that things be otherwise).

Lefties can be as abusive as righties. An ultra-rightie can easily become an ultra-leftie - with an equal level of abuse being present. But often such people are too naive to recognize what is happening or what has happened.

Been there, first hand. Seen it happen to others, again and again. Seen the costs. So now, I'm more for honesty, than for 100% advocacy for leftist agenda.

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Additional links:

Family Values Atheism: Questioning liberal dogma -- the Gay Flag: Freaks Welcome Here -- questioning gay marriage -- secular reparative therapy (choosing to live straight)
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/08/family-values-atheism-questioning.html

response to: 'Porn site claims attack by LDS Church servers' and questioning sex with 'boys' in gay culture
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/08/response-to-site-claims-attack-by-lds.html

Brief history of the modern childlove movement
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1794584/posts

The Pedophile Elephant in the Gay Activist Closet
http://www.voiceofrevolution.com/2011/11/15/the-pedophile-elephant-in-the-gay-activist-closet/

A Secular Case Against Gay Marriage?
http://secularright.org/SR/wordpress/a-secular-case-against-gay-marriage/

'Severing Love From Diapers': The Other Case Against Gay Marriage
http://www.npr.org/2013/03/20/174848127/severing-love-from-diapers-gay-marriage-opponents-make-their-case

A Non-Religious Case Against Same Sex Marriage
http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2013/04/a-non-religious-case-against-same-sex-marriage.html

Read the "yes" side at:
http://www.debate.org/opinions/are-there-any-good-secular-arguments-against-gay-marriage
if you're a self described liberal you already know the no side. So read the yes side.

A secular case against same-sex marriage
https://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/a-secular-case-against-same-sex-marriage/

The Political Brain
A recent brain-imaging study shows that our political predilections are a product of unconscious confirmation bias
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-political-brain/

Michael Shermer on confirmation bias, on the left:
http://www.michaelshermer.com/tag/confirmation-bias/

Homosexual Sentenced to 40 Years in Prison After Offering ‘Son’ to International Pedophile Ring
http://christiannews.net/2013/07/06/homosexual-sentenced-to-40-years-in-prison-after-offering-son-to-international-pedophile-ring/

Man who's friends with 5+ gay people in Salt Lake City, and an attendee at local gay house parties & bars:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695261750/Secret-shame-Predator-was-coach-Scout-chief.html

Advice for Social Conservatives & Moderates, from a Family Values Atheist
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2014/05/advice-for-social-conservatives.html

Religion is a natural phenomenon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WhQ8bSvcHQ

Human Nature: A Conservative, Classical Liberal & Libertarian View
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/library/philosophy/human-nature-conservative-classical-liberal-libertarian-view

My own additional thoughts:
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/search/label/homosexuality