Ukraine has been in the news recently. In Portland I met a very nice family from Ukraine, an experience which led in part to a desire to seek about seeking a wife from there. That experience resulted in the following:
1. Several blind dates, with about 30% normal women, 50% women who wanted nothing more than a free meal from an American man, and 20% outright thieving women.
These dates were orchistrated via the following sites:
http://www.kievconnections.comand
http://www.elenasmodels.com2. Tours of sites in Ukraine which normal tourists would never see. Swimming in a large river near Kiev. Touring cathedrals & seeing the circus. Visit to Soviet-era-looking towns and staying in similar style hotels. Visits to Odessa & the surrounding area. Odessa was known as a city of thieves. It still deserves that label, unfortunately.
A pretty face can bring ready cash. Pretend to be interested in real relationships with foreign men, and suddenly, cha-ching, the cash starts flowing in. Yes there are certainly honest hard working down to Earth people in Ukraine. It's just that most such people do not, in my view & experience, visit agencies to help them meet foriegn men to marry. It's something about the culture perhaps.
China is different. Chinese women. You will have better luck with women from China. Less likely to cheat & deceive. More hard working. A higher liklihood that you will be approached honestly & for the same purpose as you are out looking. Women not just looking for a free meal or a one night stand.
Anyway, so far I've created two video commentaries about Ukraine since they've been in the news recently.
Ukraine, freedom, dating scams, thieves, dating advise, & related thoughts - 2-20-2014
Commentary included with video 1:
Check out:
https://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyiv/euromaidan-rallies-in-ukraine-feb-19-live-updates-337098.htmlOh my. The place is trashed. What's my impression of Ukraine?
1. Some normal honest people.
2. A great number of thieves present. Here's one example:
http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32263In Portland I met a very nice family from Ukraine. Before coming to my senses and marrying a nice woman from China, I went on some blind dates with some Ukraine women. Some were normal. Some were just wanted a free meal / date. And at least one or two were outright thieves.
Also the wallet drop scam was tried on me in downtown Kiev right near the central square where a lot of the fighting is currently happening.
https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/kyivs-scammers-target-easy-prey-foreigners-30791.htmlWhy does Moscow care so much about Kiev? Because that's where their ancestors came from. But if they want to all be Ukrainian at heart why did they move to Moscow?
Russians want Ukraine to essentially be & remain a de facto Russian state / province. But a lot of Ukrainians don't appreciate the boot of Putin.
In a bar in Odessa I remember one man telling me "we just want people outside of Ukraine to view it like it's a regular normal country."
If the protests succeed and if the place can be one where the former PM is not imprisoned by the current president and so on, then perhaps the man's dream can come true.
As for the dating scam women and all of the wallet dropping scam men, I rather hope they all move somewhere else. Maybe to Putin's neighborhood.
Related book:
Tales Of Old Odessa: Crime And Civility In A City Of Thieves
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/tales-old-odessa-crime-and-civility-city-thieveshttp://www.amazon.com/Tales-Old-Odessa-Civility-Thieves/dp/0875803466City of thieves indeed. There are normal down to Earth honest people in Ukraine, but they are unfortunately surrounded by a bunch of crooks. Maybe the normal people want to throw the crooks out.
2-20-2014 7:35am and afternoon
Commentary included with video 2:
Mr. Beeb and the Birdies; more thoughts on Ukraine; the naivete of liberal relativism.
Regarding Ukraine I found the following this morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxkDiAcSF8as on the BBC for a time and at
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyiv/euromaidan-rallies-in-ukraine-feb-21-live-updates-337287.htmlTo find, in my view & opinion, 30% normal women, 50% women who are interested in nothing more than a free meal from a foreigner (and a one night stand with a big spender), and 20% women who are outright thieves visit:
http://www.kievconnections.comAbout the same odds later findable at:
http://www.elenasmodels.comRecommendations instead for dating & marriage: In the first instance first hand interaction & offline introductions. Online later, but only AFTER a real flesh & blood first hand introduction by a friend or college. This applies both to seeking someone here or abroad. And in my view and first hand experience, women from China will tend to be more honest with you regarding what exactly they're approaching you for than women from Ukraine, Russia, or similar countries. Yes there are honest down to Earth women in the former-USSR countries, but you have to do more sifting to find them. Does the woman want to go buy expensive shoes or clothing immediate after your first dinner date? Is she eager for you to meet her family? Does she call you at odd hours of the night to request emergency cash? All these are signs that you're simply being used.
Anyway I'm lucky to have found the woman I did, and that friends in the US were able to help coordinate our initial contact. A beautiful son has so far been the result.
Regarding politics, liberalism & conservatism: My preference is to now take the Hitchens approach. Question everything in the first instance, and then see where the evidence lies. Sometimes conservative or moderate ideals end up being correct, after examining sufficient evidence. A hard truth for a liberal to admit.
2-21-2014 7:22am
