Mormons who believe science shows the Book of Mormon is true. There's comparisons with creationist "science" to be sure.
13th International Book of Mormon Evidence Conference
http://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/event?oeidk=a07e8ygft4b73fe4785&llr=z7h5t5cab
The FIRM foundation:
http://firmlds.org
BoM DNA evidence:
http://www.bookofmormonevidence.org/downloads.php
An appropriate response, from a past associate of mine Simon Southerton:
http://simonsoutherton.blogspot.com/2011/12/origin-of-x-lineage.html
and
http://simonsoutherton.blogspot.com/2013/11/meldrums-x-lineage-ugly.html
It's not surprising really, to have Mormons frantically searching, searching, and searching for evidence. And then, they pull it right out of their collective asses.
The competition for the brain washed conference:
http://exmormonfoundation.org/conference-archive.html
and where Simon spoke:
http://exmormonfoundation.org/audio2006.html
Sadly the pro-science competition doesn't allow children at their conference though - STRANGE!
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/search/label/exmormon%20foundation
But they're better than nothing I suppose.
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Tuesday, February 4, 2014
Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit, Leonardo Museum, a review - February 2014
Review of our Sunday February 2nd, 2014 visit to the Utah Science and
Technology Arts Museum (also known as the Leonard Museum), in Salt Lake
City, Utah.
Currently on display is a Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit there, an exhibit which appears to be rotating around to various museums.
The admission price for the special exhibit is very high.
Here's what you'll see in side:
1. Sand on the floor.
2. Old pottery.
3. Old coins.
4. A few very small pieces of the scrolls, which are impossible to read or view in any reasonable way. Blown up images of the few pieces brought.
5. Staff who state that they believe in prayer.
6. A replica of the Jerusalem wailing wall (western temple wall), into which you can place a prayer paper, which will supposedly later be taken to Jerusalem.
7. A special Utah section about the Dead Sea Scrolls that talks about the contribution of Utahns - mainly talking about the involvement of the group FARMS (Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies - now the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship at BYU), and strangely about the DNA work of Scott Woodward. FARMS and it's successor serve as a "scholarly" "scientific" apologetic instrument of the Mormon Church.
Mention of Scott Woodward's DNA work in the Utah section was particularly appalling. Where is the Lamanite DNA? Google plant geneticist Simon Southerton to find out - there is none. FARMS/Maxwell/BYU apologetic pseudoscience has no place in an honest science museum.
References:
DNA Genealogies of American Indians and the Book of Mormon
http://www.exmormon.org/whylft125.htm
Losing a Lost Tribe: Native Americans, DNA, and the Mormon Church
http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Lost-Tribe-Native-Americans/dp/1560851813
Simon Southerton, DNA, Lamanites and the Book of Mormon
http://mormonstories.org/348-349-simon-southerton-dna-lamanites-and-the-book-of-mormon/
Dr. Southerton's blog:
http://simonsoutherton.blogspot.com
Science on prayer - as per a study paid for by a group who seeks in my view to otherwise distort science (Templeton Foundation):
Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Study_of_the_Therapeutic_Effects_of_Intercessory_Prayer
FARMS info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Ancient_Research_and_Mormon_Studies
FARMS articles at the Mormon Curtain website:
http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_farms.html
Salamander Society article on FARMS:
http://www.salamandersociety.com/apologetics/
Shake-up hits BYU's Mormon studies institute
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/54358137-78/mormon-institute-peterson-studies.html.csp
Review created February 3, 2014 - 7:11am, 7:24am, 11:27am to about noon
Saturday, February 9, 2013
lds.org : discover the perversity or Mormonism
lds.org : discover the perversity or Mormonism
Go to lds.org. Search for the following terms:
Find out what these people actually think about the human condition.
Also, read the horrible book viewable at
http://web.archive.org/web/20100712035957/http://www.lds.org/braille/The%20Miracle%20of%20Forgiveness.txt
...by past Mormon prophet Spencer Kimball. While in that document do text searches for the same words.
Then in response, read the following reviews of this book:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Miracle-Forgiveness-Spencer-Kimball/product-reviews/0884944441/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0
More info:
My own pages:
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com
http://corvus.freeshell.org/corvus_corax/two/life_path/life_path.htm
Audio from past exmormon conferences:
http://www.exmormonfoundation.org/conference-archive.html
Also current Mormon apostle believes that atheists are all moral relativists. What a bunch of bulls#|t. Atheists are humans too.
For example check out:
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2013/02/balancing-truth-and-tolerance
where Dallin Oaks says:
My response: What a shallow, obtuse, non-sequitur, and just plain wrong evaluation of what & who atheists are. We fight against abusive religions like yours because there's good reason to do so. And no, being an atheist does not automatically make one a moral relativist. I am not one, Mr. Oaks.
Sam Harris, on science helping to determine that is moral (videos found):
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=moral+landscape
Myths about atheists - Mormon & other religious leaders are especially interested in putting out lies about atheists:
http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/10-myths-and-10-truths-about-atheism1
Dawkins on atheist morality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aCRHjH6d4Q
Also check out the morality in the Bible, Quran, and Book of Mormon:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/index.htm
For each scriptural text you can find good sections about the complete lack of morality via clicking on the following terms:
And what of the morality of Mormon leaders?
On oral sex, past Mormon prophet Spencer wants to get into your bedroom:
http://lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter.shtml
http://lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter1.shtml
On masturbation, past Mormon prophet Spencer Kimball & Mormon apostle Boyd Packer both want to have a look:
http://www.zionsbest.com/only.html
http://mormonthink.com/QUOTES/masturbation.htm
Subverting normal human sexuality: Mormon Church's principal crime
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2012/12/subverting-normal-human-sexuality.html
Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, gets to have a 14 year old wife & wives who are still married to other men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joseph_Smith's_wives
Brigham Young, the second Mormon prophet, gets a 15 year old & wives still married to other men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigham_Young's_wives
Sin and Death in Mormon Country - about the costs of shaming children about masturbation:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080620075156/http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/sin_and_death_in_mormon_country.shtml
Go to lds.org. Search for the following terms:
Find out what these people actually think about the human condition.
Also, read the horrible book viewable at
http://web.archive.org/web/20100712035957/http://www.lds.org/braille/The%20Miracle%20of%20Forgiveness.txt
...by past Mormon prophet Spencer Kimball. While in that document do text searches for the same words.
Then in response, read the following reviews of this book:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Miracle-Forgiveness-Spencer-Kimball/product-reviews/0884944441/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0
More info:
My own pages:
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com
http://corvus.freeshell.org/corvus_corax/two/life_path/life_path.htm
Audio from past exmormon conferences:
http://www.exmormonfoundation.org/conference-archive.html
Also current Mormon apostle believes that atheists are all moral relativists. What a bunch of bulls#|t. Atheists are humans too.
For example check out:
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2013/02/balancing-truth-and-tolerance
where Dallin Oaks says:
"...For example, an atheist has no need to decide what kinds and occasions of profanity or blasphemy can be tolerated and what kinds should be confronted. Persons who don’t believe in God or in absolute truth in moral matters can see themselves as the most tolerant of persons. For them, almost anything goes. This belief system can tolerate almost any behavior and almost any person. Unfortunately, some who believe in moral relativism seem to have difficulty tolerating those who insist that there is a God who should be respected and that there are certain moral absolutes that should be observed..."
My response: What a shallow, obtuse, non-sequitur, and just plain wrong evaluation of what & who atheists are. We fight against abusive religions like yours because there's good reason to do so. And no, being an atheist does not automatically make one a moral relativist. I am not one, Mr. Oaks.
Sam Harris, on science helping to determine that is moral (videos found):
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=moral+landscape
Myths about atheists - Mormon & other religious leaders are especially interested in putting out lies about atheists:
http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/10-myths-and-10-truths-about-atheism1
Dawkins on atheist morality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aCRHjH6d4Q
Also check out the morality in the Bible, Quran, and Book of Mormon:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/index.htm
For each scriptural text you can find good sections about the complete lack of morality via clicking on the following terms:
Injustice
Cruelty and Violence
Intolerance
Contradictions
Science and History
Family Values
Interpretation
Misogyny
Sex
And what of the morality of Mormon leaders?
On oral sex, past Mormon prophet Spencer wants to get into your bedroom:
http://lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter.shtml
http://lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter1.shtml
On masturbation, past Mormon prophet Spencer Kimball & Mormon apostle Boyd Packer both want to have a look:
http://www.zionsbest.com/only.html
http://mormonthink.com/QUOTES/masturbation.htm
Subverting normal human sexuality: Mormon Church's principal crime
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2012/12/subverting-normal-human-sexuality.html
Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, gets to have a 14 year old wife & wives who are still married to other men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joseph_Smith's_wives
Brigham Young, the second Mormon prophet, gets a 15 year old & wives still married to other men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigham_Young's_wives
Sin and Death in Mormon Country - about the costs of shaming children about masturbation:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080620075156/http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/sin_and_death_in_mormon_country.shtml
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Sunday, February 3, 2013
Museum of Ancient Life visit - February 2nd, 2013
At the North American Museum of Ancient Life, in Lehi (near Provo), Utah (also should be known in my view as the 'Provo Dinosaur Museum'), they have a lot of nice exhibits. But
one key thing missing is any mention of human evolution, or that there were other 'homo' species, such as neanderthals. What's up with that? So
yes the place is nice & pretty, but they aren't telling the full
story with the glaring omission of human evolution. Zero mention in the
place - from what we saw. Nice & pretty to be sure, but not the full story of "ancient life." Video from our February 2nd, 2013 visit:
More info on human evolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
Perhaps one additional reason they don't want to delve into the topic is that DNA science & evidence proves that the Book of Mormon is a lie.
More info on that issue - from Dr. Simon Southerton - a DNA scientist and former Mormon bishop:
http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.php/magazine/pmm_feature_full_text/native_american_dna/
A talk by Dr. Southerton to at an Exmormon Foundation conference:
http://exmormonfoundation.org/audio2006.html
...look under the text on that page that says
"Simon Southerton, Ph.D.: 'Losing a Lost Race: From Radishes to DNA and Outer Darkness'"
Where is the Lamanite DNA? - my own article on the subject:
http://corvus.freeshell.org/psittacus/three/tract/dna_additional.htm
Does he know where the Lamanite DNA is?
Also neither he, nor the Mormon God, was apparently aware that ancient humans had sex with neanderthals & other non-homo-sapien species:
Sex with Neanderthals and Denisovans gave healthy boost to human genome: study
http://phys.org/news/2011-08-sex-neanderthals-denisovans-gave-healthy.html
The downside of sex with Neanderthals
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2011/aug/25/neanderthal-denisovan-genes-human-immunity
Now-Extinct Relative Had Sex with Humans Far and Wide
http://www.livescience.com/16171-denisovans-humans-widespread-sex-asia.html
Neanderthal genes 'survive in us'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8660940.stm
relevant image from article:
Related blog post:
DNA, the Book of Mormon, and Creationists: blowing smoke in response to science & facts
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/02/dna-book-of-mormon-and-creationists.html
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