Liberal Socialist Democrats against Islam - yes we are here too

Video commentary:

Recently Geert Wilders visited Australia. What was the response? Violent protests & slander against Mr. Wilders. Funny how easy it is for Islam-apologists to throw stones, figuratively & literally against people who already have to live with round the clock security due to past & present threats from Islamists. Geert Wilders. Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Sam Harris. Danish cartoonists & editors.

Here's an article about Wilders' visit to Australia:
http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/fact-checking-the-geert-wilders-road-show/562/

And here is my response to Eric Ellis' piece:

Ellis's article is a terribly inaccurate, prejudiced, and in my view a libel-ridden rant about Wilders. Guilt by association. Painting with a broad brush. All the things the reporter-writer may well claim to hate. Is the 'far right' in favor of leaving Islam and becoming atheistic? Are they in favor of gay or women's rights? Islamophobia? How about Scientologyphobia? Mormonphobia? Cultphobia? Or even Wildersphobia,  truthphobia, or factsphobia?

Using terms like Islamophobia, and the other abusive ad-hominem and guilt-by-claimed-association attacks in this article - it's a way of shutting the conversation down.

Should Islamic people leave Islam for atheism or maybe liberal Christianity? Would that make their lives better?

Examine the recent work of Sam Harris, and his book The Moral Landscape. In his book Harris advocates for comparing religions & world views on a scale that measures happiness & well being. Are women & men really happy if they are taught to fear human sexuality, where women are bagged from head to toe, and where young men are taught in a de facto way that the only way they can actually have a relationship with a woman is to engage in murderous jihad so that they can then have 72 virgins in the afterlife? Let's hope it's actually raisins instead of virgins. More info on that front from a former member of the Muslim Brotherhood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxfo11A7XuA

Islam is not a race. It never has been a race. It's a religion, a meme set, and all meme sets deserve to be evaluated on their merits.

On 9/11 no Christian or Jew or Hindu flew planes into buildings in New York. On 7/7 not even a Scientologist or a Jehovah's Witness took similar actions. Ideas matter. Doctrine matters. History matters. Facts matter. And what people actually believe matters.

So, with Eric Ellis's rather petty, dismissive, and attacking-type article, he's attempted to blow a huge amount of smoke, all in attempt to be yet another apologist for Islam. But, the terrorists speak for themselves, and their world view can be accurately pulled directly from the Quran and from modern Islamic societies where young men & women are taught to fear normal human sexuality and to hate the outsider.

In additional to Australia Europe also has problems with allowing free speech & free thought. What is the status of free speech in Europe? Both the Organization for Islamic Cooperation (an international Islamic country organization), and the European Council consider racism to include taking smack about a religion - blasphemy laws essentially.

Here's more info for your research:

Geert Wilders interviews about his Australia visit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l_AzeFnyw4
and:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsUQa5m3Mf8

a speech of Wilders in Australia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXUyD_H_mtk

related people:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_%28film_director%29

Winston Churchhill on Islam:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
as from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_River_War

Article responding to what happened in Australia with Wilders' visit:

Cowardly critics of Geert Wilders shame our country
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/cowardly-critics-of-geert-wilders-shame-our-country/story-e6frfhqf-1226584547791

Stephen Coughlin, Part 5: The Role of the OIC in Enforcing Islamic Law
---how the OIC considers criticism of Islam to be racisthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkAZUvQAzkc

More on free speech in Europe:
Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff speech, European Parliament, Brussels July 9 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmTj6J1RIeo
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERN9nWeHDE0

Michael Coren with Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR4uDP1bKhA

Blasphemy laws in Austria - de facto sharia...

"...Whoever publicly a person or thing that is the object of veneration of a domestic existing church or religious society, or demeans a doctrine, a lawful custom or a lawful establishment of such a church or religious community may or ridiculed, behavior under which his is liable to arouse legitimate offense, with imprisonment up to six months or a fine of up to 360 daily rates to be punished..."

Translation of original source page:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jusline.at%2F188_Herabw%25C3%25BCrdigung_religi%25C3%25B6ser_Lehren_StGB.html

EU's blasphemy law...
http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/justice_freedom_security/combating_discrimination/l33178_en.htm

And it's effects - the prosecution of Sabaditsch-Wolff & Wilders & others...
http://www.rightwinggranny.com/?tag=framework-decision-on-combating-racism-and-xenophobia
...quashing free speech about the prophet who married a 6 year old and who consummated the marriage when she was 9

Eric Allen Bell: He was working on a documentary for an Islamic mega mosque in Tennessee. Changed his mind after meeting an Egyptian Coptic Christian taxi driver and investigated Islam & Mohamed further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBLJP0t03w

His website: http://www.globalone.tv/profiles/blogs/the-drain-by-eric-allen-bell
Former blog: http://www.dailykos.com/blog/EricAllenBell

Rowan Atkinson on free speech in Britain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gciegyiLYtY

and some small progress: 'Insulting' to be dropped from section 5 of Public Order Act
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/14/insulting-section-5-public-order-act

We fought to save the EU countries from Hitler. But apparently they're still embracing some of his policies via outlawing the heart & roots of free speech. People in religions, particularly conservative religions like Islam & Mormonism, are in memetic prisons. Free speech is one key way to free these people, and pin headed politicians often don't understand that democracy & science & true progress depending on unhindered free speech & free though. Let there be a crucible, and let's work to get something very similar to the U.S. First Amendment enacted in the EU & elsewhere.

Other 9/11 liberals: Bill Maher, Christopher Hitchens, Salman Rushdie, & Sam Harris.

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3-11 addendum:

Found the following story today:

Israel condemns Zionism comments by Turkey's PM Erdogan
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21628757

Even Turkey wants to elevate "Islamophobia" to the status of racism or genocide.

"If you say something which either offends me or which may cause me to change my mind, I get to punish you the same way as if you physically attacked me."

And Turkey is a member of the OIC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation#Member_states
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation
More info on the doublespeak of the OIC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JkAZUvQAzkc
 

atheists in Jamaica - video found

Here's a video I found regarding atheists in Jamaica:

Religious Hardtalk - Atheism and Secularism - 9-18-2012

Related website:
http://www.televisionjamaica.com/Programmes/ReligiousHardtalk.aspx/Videos/20909

Mormon meeting house visit - 2-17-2013

My wife & son & I attended part of the Mormon meeting this morning. We tried some bread and water, listened to a couple of hymns, and part of a boring wrote-recitation-style talk by some lady. My son's fussiness gave us an excuse to escape early.

We went to the same meeting house where my father's family had Christmas parties when I was young. Last weekend the monk at the Salt Lake Buddhist Temple suggested that we just go back to our first religion. So today I followed his advice & we tried out Mormonism today. The result? Same old boring stuff. Oh, and the sound was up too loud in the place. On the way out we saw pictures of the leaders. As we passed by Spencer Kimball's photo we made note of his abhorrence for certain, if not most, expressions of sexuality.
http://lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter.shtml
http://lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter1.shtml
http://www.lds.org/braille/The%20Miracle%20of%20Forgiveness.txt
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/02/ldsorg-discover-perversity-or-mormonism.html
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-violence-of-buddhism-relativism.html

diet spreadsheets - February 8-15, 2013

As an addendum to this earlier post, here's more food spreadsheets:

2-8-2013

2-9-2013

2-10-2013

2-11-2013

2-12-2013

2-13-2013

2-14-2013

2-15-2013

Discrimination again atheists in Islamic countries

Moohamed didn't like detractors. In his Quran he states:

"...4:56 Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise..."
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/4/index.htm#56

Even today, in Islamic countries atheists are threatened with death or jailed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists#Islamic_countries

For example, we have the case of Alexander Aan - jailed in Indonesia for posting "God does not exist" on facebook. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan

Group advocating his freedom:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/307997139292825/

Lars Hedegaard - Danish journalist narrowly escapes death:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2273988/The-bullet-flew-past-ear-Danish-anti-Islam-writer-narrowly-survives-doorstep-assassination-attempt.html#axzz2KnjRINo9

A quote from Mr. Hedegaard:

“Criticism of religion is not only the starting point of all criticism. It is the prerequisite of any kind of criticism. In a society where religion cannot be criticized, everything becomes religion from the length of your beard to what hand to use when wiping your backside. Where there is no criticism of religion, life and society in their entirety become religious and the littlest squeak against the existing order is an act of blasphemy.”

Additional info:
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21567059-ex-muslim-atheists-are-becoming-more-outspoken-tolerance-still-rare-no-god-not

Info about other people persecuted by Islam - about Theo Van Gogh, Salman Rushdie, and 9/11 liberals:
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/01/sam-harris-on-when-crazies-get-guns.html

Preventing nutjobs from going over the edge

Regarding Chrisopher Dorner:

My familiarity with administrative hearings and the pinheads who run them leads me to believe on first glance that Dorner may have been wrongfully terminated, solely from the perspective of supposedly false statements about another officer...

Check out: http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=In+CACO+20111003006.xml&docbase=CSLWAR3-2007-CURR

http://hollywood.patch.com/articles/charlie-beck-dorner-firing-will-be-reopened

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/us/los-angeles-police-to-reopen-dorner-case.html?_r=0

I read some of his manifesto. It sounds as if they may have shafted him, just from the perspective of what they state that he got fired for. But on the other hand most people wronged, especially cops, don't go on shooting rampages. 

His manifesto: https://sites.google.com/site/christopherjdorner/home

I wonder if he would have been treated better by the LAPD, if he could have then been helped in other ways with counseling, and stayed on. Then the people Dorner killed would still be alive? It's a worthy thought experiment to conduct, especially for people who run administrative hearings and who run police departments...

So far the guy is confirmed to have killed four people. So, in his case it's good that he's dead. But everyone should realize the part they may play in the course of actions of someone who is unstable enough to do such things. They need to be treated with more care, and not sent to the wolves, where they can act out in negative ways. They should be a.) treated fairly, and b.) guided toward necessary mental health counseling. So while Dorner is responsible for his actions, and it's good that he's dead, there is simultaneously other people who're responsible for tipping a person with a propensity for being unstable over the edge via an apparently unfairly harsh & retributive environment (at the LAPD).

the violence of Buddhism - relativism, cult of personality, ignorance, & pacifism

Video:

About our February 10th, 2013 visit to the Salt Lake Buddhist Temple.


During the service the following item was read, as from article 10 of the Japanese Seventeen Article Constitution, by Shōtoku Taishi:

Let us cease from wrath, and refrain from angry looks. Nor let us be resentful when others differ from us. For all men have hearts, and each heart has its own leanings. Their right is our wrong, and our right is their wrong. We are not unquestionably sages, nor are they unquestionably fools. Both of us are simply ordinary men. How can any one lay down a rule by which to distinguish right from wrong? For we are all, one with another, wise and foolish, like a ring which has no end. Therefore, although others give way to anger, let us on the contrary dread our own faults, and though we alone may be in the right, let us follow the multitude and act like men.

Shōtoku Taishi - authored in 604 and published in 720 CE

Also we have article 6:

Chastise that which is evil and encourage that which is good. This was the excellent rule of antiquity...

'How can any one lay down a rule by which to distinguish right from wrong?' - contrast that with the claim that we should '...Chastise that which is evil and encourage that which is good. This was the excellent rule of antiquity...' ?

Human morals come from a combination of socialization and genetics.

Additionally the preacher guy stated that people who come to his church from other religions should consider going back to their religions. How uneducated can a person be about what actually happens in other religions?

Related links:

lds.org : discover the perversity or Mormonism
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/02/ldsorg-discover-perversity-or-mormonism.html

Rationalism, Naturalism, Cultural Relativism, and having an accurate view of the world
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2012/12/rationalism-naturalism-cultural.html

atheist morality: response to Peter Singer, Moshe Averick: after birth abortions, infanticide, and human rights
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/01/atheist-morality-response-to-peter.html

Salt Lake Buddhist Temple: http://www.slbuddhist.org

Japanese 17 article constitution: http://www.duhaime.org/LawMuseum/LawArticle-1182/604-The-Seventeen-Article-Constitution-of-Japan.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen-article_constitution

Criticism of Buddhism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Buddhism

Shōtoku Taishi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Sh%C5%8Dtoku

http://www.buddhanet.net/nippon/nippon_partIII.html

Crazed old fart virgin decides to resign...

In response to the story here, the following comment was posted & then censored by the BBC:

Crazed old virgins have no appreciation for human nature. Mass child rape, enabled by the institutions they foster. Locking women up for being 'too pretty,' in Ireland (Magdalene asylums). These men have an abusive relationship with existence, and the institutions they lead and foster show it.

What's up BBC, is the truth too much for you? Are you willing to tell the truth? Yes, we're 'shocked,' so 'shocked' that a man who helped protect pedophiles is deciding to resign.

Everything isn't equal.

A trimmed down version was published by then later however.

In any case, who do crazed old farts get to run abusive religions?

Cults of personality, a religions run by men who exist in their own little self-supporting bubble. Everyone loves them. They have their own terminology. People who're critical on the outside are considered devils. It's all par for the course for such systems.

Related posts:

Crazed old fart virgins don't know shit - and keep them away from your children
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2012/11/crazed-old-fart-virgins-dont-know-shit.html

Evangelical & 'religious' atheism - Utah Atheist Brunch
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2013/02/evangelical-religious-atheism-utah.html

Chinese New Year 2013 - Salt Lake City

Videos and photos from the Chinese New Year celebrations at the Salt Lake City library, February 9, 2013:

Photos and videos together:

Videos only - regular version:

Videos only - stabilized version:

Recent diet spreadsheets - February 8-10, 2013

As an addendum to my earlier post about my recent diet, here's more diet spreadsheets:

2-8-2013

2-9-2013

2-10-2013

2-11-2013

Also I found the following page: How to Break a Weight Loss Plateau

On 2-12 added the sheet for 2-11.

lds.org : discover the perversity or Mormonism

lds.org : discover the perversity or Mormonism

Go to lds.org. Search for the following terms:

masturbation
necking
"petting"
fornication
atheist
atheism

Find out what these people actually think about the human condition.

Also, read the horrible book viewable at
http://web.archive.org/web/20100712035957/http://www.lds.org/braille/The%20Miracle%20of%20Forgiveness.txt
...by past Mormon prophet Spencer Kimball. While in that document do text searches for the same words.

Then in response, read the following reviews of this book:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Miracle-Forgiveness-Spencer-Kimball/product-reviews/0884944441/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

More info:

My own pages:
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com
http://corvus.freeshell.org/corvus_corax/two/life_path/life_path.htm

Audio from past exmormon conferences:
http://www.exmormonfoundation.org/conference-archive.html

Also current Mormon apostle believes that atheists are all moral relativists. What a bunch of bulls#|t. Atheists are humans too.

For example check out:
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2013/02/balancing-truth-and-tolerance
where Dallin Oaks says:

"...For example, an atheist has no need to decide what kinds and occasions of profanity or blasphemy can be tolerated and what kinds should be confronted. Persons who don’t believe in God or in absolute truth in moral matters can see themselves as the most tolerant of persons. For them, almost anything goes. This belief system can tolerate almost any behavior and almost any person. Unfortunately, some who believe in moral relativism seem to have difficulty tolerating those who insist that there is a God who should be respected and that there are certain moral absolutes that should be observed..."

My response: What a shallow, obtuse, non-sequitur, and just plain wrong evaluation of what & who atheists are. We fight against abusive religions like yours because there's good reason to do so. And no, being an atheist does not automatically make one a moral relativist. I am not one, Mr. Oaks.

Sam Harris, on science helping to determine that is moral (videos found):
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=moral+landscape

Myths about atheists - Mormon & other religious leaders are especially interested in putting out lies about atheists:
http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/10-myths-and-10-truths-about-atheism1

Dawkins on atheist morality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aCRHjH6d4Q

Also check out the morality in the Bible, Quran, and Book of Mormon:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/index.htm

For each scriptural text you can find good sections about the complete lack of morality via clicking on the following terms:

Injustice

Cruelty and Violence

Intolerance

Contradictions

Science and History

Family Values

Interpretation

Misogyny

Sex

And what of the morality of Mormon leaders?

On oral sex, past Mormon prophet Spencer wants to get into your bedroom:
http://lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter.shtml
http://lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter1.shtml

On masturbation, past Mormon prophet Spencer Kimball & Mormon apostle Boyd Packer both want to have a look:
http://www.zionsbest.com/only.html
http://mormonthink.com/QUOTES/masturbation.htm

Subverting normal human sexuality: Mormon Church's principal crime
http://jonathanshome.blogspot.com/2012/12/subverting-normal-human-sexuality.html

Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, gets to have a 14 year old wife & wives who are still married to other men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joseph_Smith's_wives

Brigham Young, the second Mormon prophet, gets a 15 year old & wives still married to other men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigham_Young's_wives

Sin and Death in Mormon Country - about the costs of shaming children about masturbation:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080620075156/http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/sin_and_death_in_mormon_country.shtml

Recent diet spreadsheets - February 3-7, 2013

Back around ~2005 I lost about 110 pounds. I'm back on a more regimented diet for a short while. Here's links to recent spreadsheets to show what I'm eating & my progress:

2-3-2013

2-4-2013

2-5-2013

2-6-2013

2-7-2013

Primary site used for calories per gram info:
http://www.thecaloriecounter.com

Additional key things included:

Sucralose (splenda - or store brand equivalents from any store in the yellow bags), added to the oatmeal, and also used to make sugar-free lemonade or koolaid.

Today I'll be buying more cocoa powder, which is also good to add to the oatmeal.

I'd prefer to have tuna over the protein powder, but I'm not having a lot of tuna due to mercury concerns. I found some whey based protein powder which is lower in sugar and higher in protein, which is almost as good as tuna on a calories per gram of protein basis.